[administrating-your-public-servants] Re: [Administrating:28152] Re: Re: Lawful money

  • From: NELSON DICE <nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 22:55:32 +0000

JB, is there a reference u can offer before I visit the Fed....
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Subject: [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: [Administrating:28152] Re: 
Re: Lawful money

$21 Gold

On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 6:42 PM NELSON DICE 
<nelsondice@xxxxxxxx<mailto:nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
The question is what is the strike price of lawful money.

$35? $21? London spot?

I would like to know how they handle it when presented with the obligation to 
pay over lawful money.

If it's UCC definition, fine. If it's constitutional definition, fine.

Would like the answer
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Subject: [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: [Administrating:28152] Re: 
Re: Lawful money

I'm not understanding what the deal is here. Even if the bank did give you gold 
for frn's. You can use frn's to buy gold anywhere.

On Saturday, September 18, 2021, 03:31:44 PM CDT, 'Me' via Administrating Your 
Public Servants 
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 wrote:


It was a Federal Reserve Member bank - Compass Bank

Best Regards, Glenn


On Saturday, September 18, 2021, 03:30:07 PM CDT, NELSON DICE 
<nelsondice@xxxxxxxx<mailto:nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:



Glenn, was it one of the places in USC?  I think we have to go to one of the 
FED banks like San Francisco….



Or the other places mentioned…



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Subject: [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: Lawful money



I took Federal Reserve Notes to a bank in 2005 to redeem them and they laughed 
at me.



Best Regards, Glenn





On Saturday, September 18, 2021, 03:03:37 PM CDT, NELSON DICE 
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Has anyone attempted to redeem $100 bill in lawful money at a location 
indicated?

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Subject: [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: Lawful money



it does  on your checks have a stamp made " 12 U.S. Code § 411" for your checks 
and stamp it   suggest red to make it stand out





12 U.S. Code § 411 - Issuance to reserve banks; nature of obligation; redemption

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 and for all taxes, customs, and other public dues. They shall be redeemed in 
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On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 1:18 PM NELSON DICE 
<nelsondice@xxxxxxxx<mailto:nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:

David Straight claims writing this title on signature card when opening bank 
account requires banks to convert funds to lawful money



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