A friend got a 3176C letter. That is a frivolous filing letter. We sent
Charlie's letter to the agent and the commissioner by certified mail. That
was last November. So far nothing in response. Thank God.
Even if they respond we will reply and remind them that they are limited in
their jurisdiction by Article 1; Section 8; Clause 17. That is Charley's
response to any of the district of criminals contract offers. The IRS is a
complete fraud and they know it. Now, so do we.
On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 5:18 AM J Ming <oneofgodselect@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
May I ask what happened regarding IRS and how did u handle it?
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 1:04 PM Rick Miller <ricky520057@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Great stuff Charlie. My friend still has heard nothing back from the IRS
when using the letter you helped me w/last November. I attached a generic
version of your letter for Finny to use if he chooses. Please keep us all
in the loop as your case in Denver unfolds. Thanks again Charley.
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 10:39 AM Charley Dan <charleydan@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Here is my approach and will be testing again on April 4 in Denver,
Colorado tax court. This particular case started in Nov. In the United
States federal court of Claims asking them to just pay the bill. This case
is requesting every dollar my client has paid in since 1970 to be returned.
Case:
Article 1, section 8, clause17 that United States legislation of
creating the IRS does not apply outside the United States purchased land.
My clients income was not on United States property or as an employee.
Federalist paper 22 is that Consent is required which is based on
articles of confederation that are honored by Article 6, clause 1 of the
Constitution that the national government can only ask one to fight or
participate in national government, therefore must volunteer which is
consent. It also establishes common law that requires a contract.
Two attorneys have resigned and on number 3 at this point and this case
started in the Federal claims court and brought to Denver for trial.
I sent this to each attorney that has entered the scene. The third
attorney will see it in two weeks.
Your honor, the attorney must know that there is a fine line between
defending the constitution granted limited sovereignty of the IRS and the
United States constitutional authority, that is lawful. That actions
claiming authority outside of the charter is TREASON!.
Will the attorney produce the document of consent that my client signed
and where the constitution grants IRS authority outside the geographical
limited jurisdiction described in article 1, section 8, clause 17?
That is the IRS case in its totality. I'll wait till middle of March and
present again this statement to the court and United States DOJ attorney.
See if the attorney wants to represent the United States and the IRS in
this matter.
My opinion is that it is treason by participants, including the judge if
they claim any authority beyond the constitution granted sovereignty of
those two points sated above. This is true of all cases with government
employees making unconstitutional claims. TREASON!
County courts not being federal are not required report but required to
honor. The reason to use federal courts.
Or one could use declaratory judgement/relief as 'win' stated that David
straight does. Personally I've not tried it, but will file a case this
weekend to try and figure that process out and if I can get it to work for
me.
I wish you well in your case.
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 5:26 AM Christopher Markham <1stcarguy@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
The first thing to do, before you validdate their claim by discussing "Life in one word--LOVE
what you owe" and. " how you.arre going to pay it" or "a payment plan" (all
of which admit to all kinds of things that secretly exist in their
presumptions) , is to make them validate the debt. Theirs all kinds of
easily found IRS debt validation letters on the internet or maybe a tax
expert in the group has one prepared. That outfit is well-known for making
false claims. They get away with it because most of us . myself included,
get scared and just pay it so they go sway. I did , but now I realize there
was no court order, so no due process. If thats the case , then they dont
have anything and need to go away. They put a lien on my house when they
did not have a court judgement. I did not know what I know now and paid it.
On the other hand , I was veery aggressive with write offs and figured I
was still ahead and did not need trouble. After all , i got their attention
somehow and did not want more. If you think you owe it , there is nothing
wrong with working with them . maybe they will cut you a break. If you dont
owe it or just prefer not to pay it , make them prove. Many times, Ive
heard they cant. I pussied out when confronted, so Im telling what has
worked for others , not my personal experience. Good Luck.
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 10:30 Finny <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I could definitely use some help. One question I have is if I do a
revocation could I still file 1099a or 1099c?
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On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 0:01, Finny
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They contacted me and scheduled a meeting for this coming Tuesday.
They say I owe them about 23k. I'm concerned because I'm not clear how
to
transition out from the old way of doing things and becoming who I am now.
It's not enough to change ones status but the unlearning part is a slog.
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On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 22:50, Rick Miller
<ricky520057@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
If you haven't filed and you haven't heard from our beloved friends.
Don't file at all. No need to rock the boat for now. You don't have to
do the revocation if you haven't heard from them. If they should start
bothering you, just let me know and I will help you out. Just do your
business, move on and thank God for every day you don't hear from those
creeps.
On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:39 PM Finny <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I didn't file for a couple of years. Can I do a revocation despite
past returns missing? Also, I'm not sure how to go about doing the
revocation either.
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On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 22:30, Rick Miller
<ricky520057@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Since you are not having any withholding taken out, and don't have to
try and get your money back, why don't you do a revocation of election and
stop filing tax returns at all?
On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:23 PM Finny <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I'm looking for help in filing a 1040NR. I have a small sandwich shop
and before I changed my status I used to file 1040's. Anyone able to
help??
Thanks
John
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