Who on this group has had success or knows of someone who has successfully used
the procedure to “purchase” a car of something of value?
Even to “set off” or discharge the “debt”?
Anyone?
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<administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Ray
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Subject: [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: 1040NR
that number is not yours. The original trustee is the guy who is now occupying
the position of custodian of the COLB. Why not return him to his original
position and leave the private businesses out of it? When you filled out and
filed a 1040 the first three times you made yourself trustee. Now you're
pawning that off on the business.
On Monday, February 28, 2022, 3:07:44 PM MST, Ray Greninger
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Whoever fills out the paper work is the trustee. Why saddle the dealer with
that? Wouldn't it make more sense to make the original trustee the trustee? who
was that before you were 7?
On Monday, February 28, 2022, 3:03:04 PM MST, Ray Greninger
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
It's not the job of the dealer to be trustee.
On Monday, February 28, 2022, 2:51:28 PM MST, Rick Miller
<ricky520057@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ricky520057@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Donny, have you actually gotten this to work for you yet? I have been part of
the Telegram group for a while now, but I don't see anyone having much luck.
Ray, yes the only form that requires a signature is the 1096 form. Since the
dealership has your SSN, they become a trustee. I think the man or woman
signing the 1096 could use any title they feel appropriate. There is a
beneficiary endorsement on the back of the 1099-A that we provide. All the
forms, the 1099-A, 1099-OID and the 1096 and the 1040V go to the dealership or
whoever you are working with. They are the ones that mail the packet of forms
to the U.S. Treasury.
On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 2:42 PM Ray Greninger
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
The system is backed by the original pledge. The trust is created from that.
Who is Hauser making trustee? The car dealership? The bank? Who should the
trustee be?
On Monday, February 28, 2022, 1:52:02 PM MST, Donny Warner
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I Overstand that Quote. :)
Do you know that the Trust they created are to compensate us for taking our
gold and silver. The dollar is now backed by our All Capital Name Trust
accounts. We cut out the middle man and use the Trust to Benefit the
Beneficiary. A bank doesn’t lend you their money. They file a 1099a and give
you money from your Trust account. You make them a trustee. They do the same
thing when you die. The Bond matures and creeps claim it as abandoned property
with a 1099a. This guy Chris Hauser is showing you how to pay for anything that
benefits the beneficiary with a 1099a filed with a 1040v. :)
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On Feb 28, 2022, at 8:59 AM, Ray Greninger (raygreninger)
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
should be quotation marks on both ends of that
On Monday, February 28, 2022, 5:55:15 AM MST, Ray Greninger
<raygreninger@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:raygreninger@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
When the Master, the People enter the servants world and engage with the
servants on their terms through their procedures, the Master position is
abandoned and that evidence is the admission of subject status.
On Monday, February 28, 2022, 2:30:07 AM MST, Donny Warner
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Just getting my head around things. W8Ben is what I think we need to use to
establish our status. We are the Beneficiaries not Trusties. We shouldn’t even
know about any “taxes” owed. I can’t be the Beneficiary and the Trustee at the
same time. It’s against Trust Law. :)
Sign your name;
First-Middle: Last, Beneficiary
Been watching Chris Hauser on YouTube. Anyone have any success offering 1099a
for what Benefits the Beneficiary? A Trustee is required to do what Benefits
the Beneficiary.
Did I miss anything?? :) (Haven’t done anything yet. Still working on having
Confidence in my Standing.)
Donny
https://youtu.be/lb1h64UIYmc
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On Feb 25, 2022, at 2:04 PM, Rick Miller
<ricky520057@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ricky520057@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Great stuff Charlie. My friend still has heard nothing back from the IRS when
using the letter you helped me w/last November. I attached a generic version
of your letter for Finny to use if he chooses. Please keep us all in the loop
as your case in Denver unfolds. Thanks again Charley.
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 10:39 AM Charley Dan
<charleydan@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:charleydan@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Here is my approach and will be testing again on April 4 in Denver, Colorado
tax court. This particular case started in Nov. In the United States federal
court of Claims asking them to just pay the bill. This case is requesting every
dollar my client has paid in since 1970 to be returned.
Case:
Article 1, section 8, clause17 that United States legislation of creating the
IRS does not apply outside the United States purchased land. My clients income
was not on United States property or as an employee.
Federalist paper 22 is that Consent is required which is based on articles of
confederation that are honored by Article 6, clause 1 of the Constitution that
the national government can only ask one to fight or participate in national
government, therefore must volunteer which is consent. It also establishes
common law that requires a contract.
Two attorneys have resigned and on number 3 at this point and this case started
in the Federal claims court and brought to Denver for trial.
I sent this to each attorney that has entered the scene. The third attorney
will see it in two weeks.
Your honor, the attorney must know that there is a fine line between defending
the constitution granted limited sovereignty of the IRS and the United States
constitutional authority, that is lawful. That actions claiming authority
outside of the charter is TREASON!.
Will the attorney produce the document of consent that my client signed and
where the constitution grants IRS authority outside the geographical limited
jurisdiction described in article 1, section 8, clause 17?
That is the IRS case in its totality. I'll wait till middle of March and
present again this statement to the court and United States DOJ attorney. See
if the attorney wants to represent the United States and the IRS in this
matter.
My opinion is that it is treason by participants, including the judge if they
claim any authority beyond the constitution granted sovereignty of those two
points sated above. This is true of all cases with government employees making
unconstitutional claims. TREASON!
County courts not being federal are not required report but required to honor.
The reason to use federal courts.
Or one could use declaratory judgement/relief as 'win' stated that David
straight does. Personally I've not tried it, but will file a case this weekend
to try and figure that process out and if I can get it to work for me.
I wish you well in your case.
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 5:26 AM Christopher Markham
<1stcarguy@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:1stcarguy@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
The first thing to do, before you validdate their claim by discussing " what
you owe" and. " how you.arre going to pay it" or "a payment plan" (all of which
admit to all kinds of things that secretly exist in their presumptions) , is to
make them validate the debt. Theirs all kinds of easily found IRS debt
validation letters on the internet or maybe a tax expert in the group has one
prepared. That outfit is well-known for making false claims. They get away with
it because most of us . myself included, get scared and just pay it so they go
sway. I did , but now I realize there was no court order, so no due process. If
thats the case , then they dont have anything and need to go away. They put a
lien on my house when they did not have a court judgement. I did not know what
I know now and paid it. On the other hand , I was veery aggressive with write
offs and figured I was still ahead and did not need trouble. After all , i got
their attention somehow and did not want more. If you think you owe it , there
is nothing wrong with working with them . maybe they will cut you a break. If
you dont owe it or just prefer not to pay it , make them prove. Many times, Ive
heard they cant. I pussied out when confronted, so Im telling what has worked
for others , not my personal experience. Good Luck.
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 10:30 Finny
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I could definitely use some help. One question I have is if I do a revocation
could I still file 1099a or 1099c?
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On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 0:01, Finny
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They contacted me and scheduled a meeting for this coming Tuesday. They say I
owe them about 23k. I'm concerned because I'm not clear how to transition out
from the old way of doing things and becoming who I am now. It's not enough to
change ones status but the unlearning part is a slog.
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On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 22:50, Rick Miller
<ricky520057@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ricky520057@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
If you haven't filed and you haven't heard from our beloved friends. Don't
file at all. No need to rock the boat for now. You don't have to do the
revocation if you haven't heard from them. If they should start bothering you,
just let me know and I will help you out. Just do your business, move on and
thank God for every day you don't hear from those creeps.
On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:39 PM Finny
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I didn't file for a couple of years. Can I do a revocation despite past
returns missing? Also, I'm not sure how to go about doing the revocation
either.
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On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 22:30, Rick Miller
<ricky520057@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ricky520057@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Since you are not having any withholding taken out, and don't have to try and
get your money back, why don't you do a revocation of election and stop filing
tax returns at all?
On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:23 PM Finny
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I'm looking for help in filing a 1040NR. I have a small sandwich shop and
before I changed my status I used to file 1040's. Anyone able to help??
Thanks
John
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