accessible-iOS Re: IOS 7.0.4

  • From: Jessica D <jldail13@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:23:05 -0500

is it just for the 5s?
I am not seeing the update.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Kevin Barry <krbarry@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> IOS 7.0.4 is out. Doesn't fix the VO volume issue on my 5s or the double 
> speaking of "screen locked".
> 
> At 10:15 PM 11/13/2013, you wrote:
>> yeah neighb.
>> 
>> Anthony D,. Tom
>> I am empowered by attention and my gift is desire or epiphany.
>> It is better to have crossed the line and faced the consequences, than to
>> remain standing on that same line for the next mellineum.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 11:55 AM
>> To: accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I m certainly not sitting in an ivory tower.  I'm just being pragmatic.  I
>> was just telling you the facts of economic life.  I never said it was fair,
>> right, or just.  As a person who grew up watching my mother working as a
>> waitress in a diner for less than a livable wage, and then spend 5 days a
>> week taking care of rich peoples children around the clock, sacrificing time
>> with her own kids because it was the honest to god best she could do at the
>> time,  I know the value of money.  I find it funny that you, a person who
>> has no idea of my background, or economic status are accusing me of
>> anything. lol. For all you know, I could be your neighbor.    Being
>> Jamaican, I know very well the relative exchange rates found in the West
>> Indies thank you very much.  But the fact still remains. Owning an iPhone
>> isn't your god given right.  I would like to live in a mansion but you know
>> what?  I can't afford it.  I have come to grips with this, and have moved
>> on.  I'm fortunate enough to afford an iPhone, and the ecosystem that comes
>> with it.  If I couldn't, guess what?  I would move on.  I would find an
>> alternative I could afford to maintain.  So please, spare me your
>> circumstances.  It's a phone.  5 years ago, none of us were using iPhones
>> and we managed to get by.  So I can't make my heart bleed for those who
>> can't afford to maintain an iPhone.  It's not food, shelter, or medicine
>> after all.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Anthony Tom, Studio
>> <homesweethome.tom@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> > you sit there in your condemnatory ivory tower... you know what 1 US
>> > dollar costs me? $6.50 Trinidad and tobago. i bought a $15 Itunes card
>> > that i cannot now use. you know what it costs me? $180 Trinidad and
>> tobago. yes!!!
>> > twice the cost. thank god that he placed you wherever you've found
>> > your fortune. but it is not the well-to-do that comprise this world.
>> > then again, if there weren't other people in this world than the
>> > fortunate ones, whose face would you have been able to drag through the
>> dirt like this?
>> >
>> > uttered at the risk of being expelled from the list.
>> >
>> > Anthony D,. Tom
>> > I am empowered by attention and my gift is desire or epiphany.
>> > It is better to have crossed the line and faced the consequences, than
>> > to remain standing on that same line for the next mellineum.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > [mailto:accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ricardo
>> > Walker
>> > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:17 PM
>> > To: accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > Yes.  They are.  And it effects so few of their customers, they don't
>> care.
>> > Because the sad but true fact is, they don't want people with 0
>> > balances in their checking accounts or maxed out credit cards.  And
>> > like I said earlier, if you can't manage to have $1 in your account, you
>> have way bigger issues
>> > than being able to update an app on your phone.    So like you said
>> "welcome
>> > to the real world."
>> >
>> > For the record, is it good customer service?  Of course not.  But,
>> > when you buy a premium product, you often have to deal with stuff like
>> > this.  Like someone mentioned earlier, if you can afford to buy a
>> > sports car, your probably not worrying about the price of gas.
>> >
>> > Ricardo Walker
>> > ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> > www.appletothecore.info
>> >
>> > On Nov 10, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Anthony Tom, Studio
>> > <homesweethome.tom@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >> so why tell me i can't upgrade programmes i have already bought
>> >> because i may have run out of money? for crying out loud ... ... ...
>> >> ... they've already been paid for!!!!! they are forcing you to have
>> > money!!!
>> >>
>> >> Anthony D,. Tom
>> >> I am empowered by attention and my gift is desire or epiphany.
>> >> It is better to have crossed the line and faced the consequences,
>> >> than to remain standing on that same line for the next mellineum.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> [mailto:accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Donna
>> >> Goodin
>> >> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:45 AM
>> >> To: accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> Subject: accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money
>> >>
>> >> Very good point, Ricardo.
>> >> Donna
>> >> On Nov 10, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> If this is indeed the case, wouldn't just having $1 on what ever
>> >>> method of
>> >> payment your using gain access to all the stuff you said you were
>> >> being denied access to?  If this is so, I don't see how having $1 on
>> >> a form of payment is unreasonable.  I figure if this is your last
>> >> dollar to your name, you probably have way bigger issues than getting
>> >> free apps
>> > for your iPhone.
>> >>>
>> >>> JMO.
>> >>>
>> >>> Ricardo Walker
>> >>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> >>> www.appletothecore.info
>> >>>
>> >>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I am on that ******fixed income for other disabilities as well. I
>> >>>> have
>> >> fibromyalgia and degenerative muscle weakness. By the time I finish
>> >> college, I may not be able to work anyway. But if ten dollars is not
>> >> that much, you are welcome to send it to me as a gift. I had to get
>> >> my medicine over having money in the account for stupid policies like
>> this.
>> >>>> Jewel
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Donna Goodin <doniadonna@xxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Folks, I hate to say this, but what Apple's doing is just not that
>> >> unreasonable.  As many have pointed out, if you don't have a credit
>> >> or debit card, buy a gift card and set up your account.  You can get
>> >> a gift card for $10, that's just not that much money.  Once you've
>> >> done that, you can do whatever upgrading and purchasing of free apps
>> >> you need to do.  I'm sorry, but I'm blind and I've worked my whole
>> >> ****** life.  Right now I'm working a job that I hate, but at least
>> >> it's a job.  If you're on a fixed income, maybe start thinking about
>> >> how to
>> > change that.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Sorry if this is bitchy, but I see no reason *at *all why someone
>> >>>>> who is
>> >> blind has to be on a fixed income.
>> >>>>> Donna
>> >>>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The problem is that many disabled people are on fixed incomes.
>> >>>>>> For
>> >> example, I run out of money long before the month is through. I
>> >> should still be able to get free apps, download apps I already
>> >> purchased but are not currently on my device, and schedule genius bar
>> appointments.
>> >> Without money, I have no access to even change the password on the
>> >> lock screen because the Apple password is essentially broken until
>> >> their
>> > or is money available.
>> >> Buying a gift card to leave money on is essentially the same as
>> >> requiring a deposit, a bad move on Apple's part imo.
>> >>>>>> And please don't lecture me on budgeting. I get $700 each month
>> >>>>>> and
>> >> somehow don't qualify for food stamps.
>> >>>>>> Jewel
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Ricardo Walker
>> >>>>>>> <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I'm totally confused.  How would Apple Know if you have money in
>> >>>>>>> your
>> >> bank account or not?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>> >>>>>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> >>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Even if you are setting up a genius bar appointment, getting a
>> >>>>>>>> free app, or updating those you already have, it won't work if
>> >>>>>>>> you
>> >> don't have a valid card. This means if you use a debit card, if you
>> >> run out of money, you cannot do anything requiring an Apple password.
>> >> I I am going to complain to Apple about this and I hope many will
>> >> join me in this. Not everyone has a credit card and not everyone has
>> >> available funds all the time.
>> >>>>>>>> Jewel
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> reply://herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
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