is it just for the 5s? I am not seeing the update. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Kevin Barry <krbarry@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > IOS 7.0.4 is out. Doesn't fix the VO volume issue on my 5s or the double > speaking of "screen locked". > > At 10:15 PM 11/13/2013, you wrote: >> yeah neighb. >> >> Anthony D,. Tom >> I am empowered by attention and my gift is desire or epiphany. >> It is better to have crossed the line and faced the consequences, than to >> remain standing on that same line for the next mellineum. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker >> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 11:55 AM >> To: accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money >> >> Hi, >> >> I m certainly not sitting in an ivory tower. I'm just being pragmatic. I >> was just telling you the facts of economic life. I never said it was fair, >> right, or just. As a person who grew up watching my mother working as a >> waitress in a diner for less than a livable wage, and then spend 5 days a >> week taking care of rich peoples children around the clock, sacrificing time >> with her own kids because it was the honest to god best she could do at the >> time, I know the value of money. I find it funny that you, a person who >> has no idea of my background, or economic status are accusing me of >> anything. lol. For all you know, I could be your neighbor. Being >> Jamaican, I know very well the relative exchange rates found in the West >> Indies thank you very much. But the fact still remains. Owning an iPhone >> isn't your god given right. I would like to live in a mansion but you know >> what? I can't afford it. I have come to grips with this, and have moved >> on. I'm fortunate enough to afford an iPhone, and the ecosystem that comes >> with it. If I couldn't, guess what? I would move on. I would find an >> alternative I could afford to maintain. So please, spare me your >> circumstances. It's a phone. 5 years ago, none of us were using iPhones >> and we managed to get by. So I can't make my heart bleed for those who >> can't afford to maintain an iPhone. It's not food, shelter, or medicine >> after all. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Nov 12, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Anthony Tom, Studio >> <homesweethome.tom@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> > you sit there in your condemnatory ivory tower... you know what 1 US >> > dollar costs me? $6.50 Trinidad and tobago. i bought a $15 Itunes card >> > that i cannot now use. you know what it costs me? $180 Trinidad and >> tobago. yes!!! >> > twice the cost. thank god that he placed you wherever you've found >> > your fortune. but it is not the well-to-do that comprise this world. >> > then again, if there weren't other people in this world than the >> > fortunate ones, whose face would you have been able to drag through the >> dirt like this? >> > >> > uttered at the risk of being expelled from the list. >> > >> > Anthony D,. Tom >> > I am empowered by attention and my gift is desire or epiphany. >> > It is better to have crossed the line and faced the consequences, than >> > to remain standing on that same line for the next mellineum. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > [mailto:accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ricardo >> > Walker >> > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:17 PM >> > To: accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Subject: accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money >> > >> > Hello, >> > >> > Yes. They are. And it effects so few of their customers, they don't >> care. >> > Because the sad but true fact is, they don't want people with 0 >> > balances in their checking accounts or maxed out credit cards. And >> > like I said earlier, if you can't manage to have $1 in your account, you >> have way bigger issues >> > than being able to update an app on your phone. So like you said >> "welcome >> > to the real world." >> > >> > For the record, is it good customer service? Of course not. But, >> > when you buy a premium product, you often have to deal with stuff like >> > this. Like someone mentioned earlier, if you can afford to buy a >> > sports car, your probably not worrying about the price of gas. >> > >> > Ricardo Walker >> > ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Twitter:@apple2thecore >> > www.appletothecore.info >> > >> > On Nov 10, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Anthony Tom, Studio >> > <homesweethome.tom@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > >> >> so why tell me i can't upgrade programmes i have already bought >> >> because i may have run out of money? for crying out loud ... ... ... >> >> ... they've already been paid for!!!!! they are forcing you to have >> > money!!! >> >> >> >> Anthony D,. Tom >> >> I am empowered by attention and my gift is desire or epiphany. >> >> It is better to have crossed the line and faced the consequences, >> >> than to remain standing on that same line for the next mellineum. >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> [mailto:accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Donna >> >> Goodin >> >> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:45 AM >> >> To: accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> Subject: accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money >> >> >> >> Very good point, Ricardo. >> >> Donna >> >> On Nov 10, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> If this is indeed the case, wouldn't just having $1 on what ever >> >>> method of >> >> payment your using gain access to all the stuff you said you were >> >> being denied access to? If this is so, I don't see how having $1 on >> >> a form of payment is unreasonable. I figure if this is your last >> >> dollar to your name, you probably have way bigger issues than getting >> >> free apps >> > for your iPhone. >> >>> >> >>> JMO. >> >>> >> >>> Ricardo Walker >> >>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> >>> www.appletothecore.info >> >>> >> >>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> I am on that ******fixed income for other disabilities as well. I >> >>>> have >> >> fibromyalgia and degenerative muscle weakness. By the time I finish >> >> college, I may not be able to work anyway. But if ten dollars is not >> >> that much, you are welcome to send it to me as a gift. I had to get >> >> my medicine over having money in the account for stupid policies like >> this. >> >>>> Jewel >> >>>> >> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Donna Goodin <doniadonna@xxxxxx> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Folks, I hate to say this, but what Apple's doing is just not that >> >> unreasonable. As many have pointed out, if you don't have a credit >> >> or debit card, buy a gift card and set up your account. You can get >> >> a gift card for $10, that's just not that much money. Once you've >> >> done that, you can do whatever upgrading and purchasing of free apps >> >> you need to do. I'm sorry, but I'm blind and I've worked my whole >> >> ****** life. Right now I'm working a job that I hate, but at least >> >> it's a job. If you're on a fixed income, maybe start thinking about >> >> how to >> > change that. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Sorry if this is bitchy, but I see no reason *at *all why someone >> >>>>> who is >> >> blind has to be on a fixed income. >> >>>>> Donna >> >>>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> The problem is that many disabled people are on fixed incomes. >> >>>>>> For >> >> example, I run out of money long before the month is through. I >> >> should still be able to get free apps, download apps I already >> >> purchased but are not currently on my device, and schedule genius bar >> appointments. >> >> Without money, I have no access to even change the password on the >> >> lock screen because the Apple password is essentially broken until >> >> their >> > or is money available. >> >> Buying a gift card to leave money on is essentially the same as >> >> requiring a deposit, a bad move on Apple's part imo. >> >>>>>> And please don't lecture me on budgeting. I get $700 each month >> >>>>>> and >> >> somehow don't qualify for food stamps. >> >>>>>> Jewel >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Ricardo Walker >> >>>>>>> <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> >> >> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Hi, >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> I'm totally confused. How would Apple Know if you have money in >> >>>>>>> your >> >> bank account or not? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Ricardo Walker >> >>>>>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> >>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Even if you are setting up a genius bar appointment, getting a >> >>>>>>>> free app, or updating those you already have, it won't work if >> >>>>>>>> you >> >> don't have a valid card. This means if you use a debit card, if you >> >> run out of money, you cannot do anything requiring an Apple password. >> >> I I am going to complain to Apple about this and I hope many will >> >> join me in this. Not everyone has a credit card and not everyone has >> >> available funds all the time. >> >>>>>>>> Jewel >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> reply://herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhoneWith questions, concerns or issues not >> >>>>>>>> related to the topics discussed on list please email the list >> >>>>>>>> admin to alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on skype at betoa221, or on >> > twitter: >> >>>>>>>> betoa221 >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> To subscribe to the list send message to >> >>>>>>>> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the >> >>>>>>>> subject >> >> line. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list please send message to >> >>>>>>>> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the >> >>>>>>>> subject >> >> line. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> To adjust your membership options please visit: >> >>>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-ios >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> With questions, concerns or issues not related to 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