This is all I do so that damage is limited if abused. It's getting all too easy for business to fleece you for anything they like and you little control over them to prevent it. Struth, many services charge a premium for billing you to pay at your convenience, rather than them having your details to debit at will. I can't quantify how much control over our own money we've already lost, but I'm disturbed by it as a trend. Rh. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx> To: <accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 8:54 PM Subject: accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money Hi Nikki. The only option for you then is to buy a gift card for yourself from a retail store, then redeem it. All the best, Ibrahim. -----Original Message----- From: Nikki Wunderlich Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 8:02 PM To: accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money I agree heck I don't even have my own checking or savings account or any credit cards because I've got a rep payee and they help me with bills and stuff and give me a certain amount each month Nikki Wunderlich Face time Facebook MSN haytell Voxer and tango as well as main email nikki0222@xxxxxxxxx AIM and yahoo nikkiwunderlich Skype and twitter nikki022285 Zello nikki Wunderlich Cell 763-248-0106 Sent from my iPod On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Chris H <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hmmm this is nothing new Apple always had this policy. If you don't wish > to have a card on file then just buy a gift card from any reputable > retailer or Apple themselves and redeem it during sign up. > > E-mail Facebook and iMessage > christopherh40@xxxxxxxxx > > On 09/11/2013 17:46, Jewel wrote: >> Even if you are setting up a genius bar appointment, getting a free app, >> or updating those you already have, it won't work if you don't have a >> valid card. This means if you use a debit card, if you run out of money, >> you cannot do anything requiring an Apple password. I >> I am going to complain to Apple about this and I hope many will join me >> in this. Not everyone has a credit card and not everyone has available >> funds all the time. >> Jewel >> >> >> reply://herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx >> >> >> Sent from my iPhoneWith questions, concerns or issues not related to the >> topics discussed on list please email the list >> admin to alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter: >> betoa221 >> >> To subscribe to the list send message to >> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the >> subject line. >> >> To unsubscribe from the list please send message to >> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >> unsubscribe in the subject line. >> >> To adjust your membership options please visit: >> //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-ios >> > With questions, concerns or issues not related to the topics discussed on > list please email the list admin to alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on skype at > betoa221, or on twitter: betoa221 > > To subscribe to the list send message to > accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the subject line. > > To unsubscribe from the list please send message to > accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the subject line. > > To adjust your membership options please visit: > //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-ios With questions, concerns or issues not related to the topics discussed on list please email the list admin to alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter: betoa221 To subscribe to the list send message to accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the subject line. To unsubscribe from the list please send message to accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the subject line. To adjust your membership options please visit: //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-ios With questions, concerns or issues not related to the topics discussed on list please email the list admin to alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter: betoa221 To subscribe to the list send message to accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the subject line. To unsubscribe from the list please send message to accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the subject line. To adjust your membership options please visit: //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-ios With questions, concerns or issues not related to the topics discussed on list please email the list admin to alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter: betoa221 To subscribe to the list send message to accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the subject line. To unsubscribe from the list please send message to accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the subject line. To adjust your membership options please visit: //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-ios