accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money
- From: Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:55:09 -0500
Hi,
I m certainly not sitting in an ivory tower. I’m just being pragmatic. I was
just telling you the facts of economic life. I never said it was fair, right,
or just. As a person who grew up watching my mother working as a waitress in a
diner for less than a livable wage, and then spend 5 days a week taking care of
rich peoples children around the clock, sacrificing time with her own kids
because it was the honest to god best she could do at the time, I know the
value of money. I find it funny that you, a person who has no idea of my
background, or economic status are accusing me of anything. lol. For all you
know, I could be your neighbor. Being Jamaican, I know very well the
relative exchange rates found in the West Indies thank you very much. But the
fact still remains. Owning an iPhone isn’t your god given right. I would like
to live in a mansion but you know what? I can’t afford it. I have come to
grips with this, and have moved on. I’m fortunate enough to afford an iPhone,
and the ecosystem that comes with it. If I couldn’t, guess what? I would move
on. I would find an alternative I could afford to maintain. So please, spare
me your circumstances. It’s a phone. 5 years ago, none of us were using
iPhones and we managed to get by. So I can’t make my heart bleed for those who
can’t afford to maintain an iPhone. It’s not food, shelter, or medicine after
all.
Ricardo Walker
ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info
On Nov 12, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Anthony Tom, Studio <homesweethome.tom@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> you sit there in your condemnatory ivory tower... you know what 1 US dollar
> costs me? $6.50 Trinidad and tobago. i bought a $15 Itunes card that i
> cannot now use. you know what it costs me? $180 Trinidad and tobago. yes!!!
> twice the cost. thank god that he placed you wherever you've found your
> fortune. but it is not the well-to-do that comprise this world. then again,
> if there weren't other people in this world than the fortunate ones, whose
> face would you have been able to drag through the dirt like this?
>
> uttered at the risk of being expelled from the list.
>
> Anthony D,. Tom
> I am empowered by attention and my gift is desire or epiphany.
> It is better to have crossed the line and faced the consequences, than to
> remain standing on that same line for the next mellineum.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:17 PM
> To: accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money
>
> Hello,
>
> Yes. They are. And it effects so few of their customers, they don't care.
> Because the sad but true fact is, they don't want people with 0 balances in
> their checking accounts or maxed out credit cards. And like I said earlier,
> if you can't manage to have $1 in your account, you have way bigger issues
> than being able to update an app on your phone. So like you said "welcome
> to the real world."
>
> For the record, is it good customer service? Of course not. But, when you
> buy a premium product, you often have to deal with stuff like this. Like
> someone mentioned earlier, if you can afford to buy a sports car, your
> probably not worrying about the price of gas.
>
> Ricardo Walker
> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
>
> On Nov 10, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Anthony Tom, Studio
> <homesweethome.tom@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> so why tell me i can't upgrade programmes i have already bought
>> because i may have run out of money? for crying out loud ... ... ...
>> ... they've already been paid for!!!!! they are forcing you to have
> money!!!
>>
>> Anthony D,. Tom
>> I am empowered by attention and my gift is desire or epiphany.
>> It is better to have crossed the line and faced the consequences, than
>> to remain standing on that same line for the next mellineum.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:45 AM
>> To: accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money
>>
>> Very good point, Ricardo.
>> Donna
>> On Nov 10, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> If this is indeed the case, wouldn't just having $1 on what ever
>>> method of
>> payment your using gain access to all the stuff you said you were
>> being denied access to? If this is so, I don't see how having $1 on a
>> form of payment is unreasonable. I figure if this is your last dollar
>> to your name, you probably have way bigger issues than getting free apps
> for your iPhone.
>>>
>>> JMO.
>>>
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>
>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am on that ******fixed income for other disabilities as well. I
>>>> have
>> fibromyalgia and degenerative muscle weakness. By the time I finish
>> college, I may not be able to work anyway. But if ten dollars is not
>> that much, you are welcome to send it to me as a gift. I had to get my
>> medicine over having money in the account for stupid policies like this.
>>>> Jewel
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Donna Goodin <doniadonna@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Folks, I hate to say this, but what Apple's doing is just not that
>> unreasonable. As many have pointed out, if you don't have a credit or
>> debit card, buy a gift card and set up your account. You can get a
>> gift card for $10, that's just not that much money. Once you've done
>> that, you can do whatever upgrading and purchasing of free apps you
>> need to do. I'm sorry, but I'm blind and I've worked my whole ******
>> life. Right now I'm working a job that I hate, but at least it's a
>> job. If you're on a fixed income, maybe start thinking about how to
> change that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry if this is bitchy, but I see no reason *at *all why someone
>>>>> who is
>> blind has to be on a fixed income.
>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem is that many disabled people are on fixed incomes. For
>> example, I run out of money long before the month is through. I should
>> still be able to get free apps, download apps I already purchased but
>> are not currently on my device, and schedule genius bar appointments.
>> Without money, I have no access to even change the password on the
>> lock screen because the Apple password is essentially broken until their
> or is money available.
>> Buying a gift card to leave money on is essentially the same as
>> requiring a deposit, a bad move on Apple's part imo.
>>>>>> And please don't lecture me on budgeting. I get $700 each month
>>>>>> and
>> somehow don't qualify for food stamps.
>>>>>> Jewel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm totally confused. How would Apple Know if you have money in
>>>>>>> your
>> bank account or not?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even if you are setting up a genius bar appointment, getting a
>>>>>>>> free app, or updating those you already have, it won't work if
>>>>>>>> you
>> don't have a valid card. This means if you use a debit card, if you
>> run out of money, you cannot do anything requiring an Apple password.
>> I I am going to complain to Apple about this and I hope many will join
>> me in this. Not everyone has a credit card and not everyone has
>> available funds all the time.
>>>>>>>> Jewel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> reply://herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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