You know, sometimes as unfortunate as it may be, devices may just be out of one's budget and even though it would be great to have an iPhone and all the app goodies that it offers, circumstances may dictate that it's simply not in the cards and one might have to seek out less expensive accessibility solutions. I don't think it's unreasonable for Apple to require this, but then again, I’m not in a situation where I have to choose between basic living essentials and an iPhone. Which in any case wouldn't seem like a difficult choice to make. As the saying goes, don't buy the car if you can't afford the gas. -----Original Message----- From: accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:accessible-ios-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Josh Gregory Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 6:54 PM To: accessible-ios@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: accessible-iOS Re: Apple is forcing us to have money Okay people, keep it civil please, and if you want to fight back and forth take it off list. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I am on that ******fixed income for other disabilities as well. I have > fibromyalgia and degenerative muscle weakness. By the time I finish college, > I may not be able to work anyway. But if ten dollars is not that much, you > are welcome to send it to me as a gift. I had to get my medicine over having > money in the account for stupid policies like this. > Jewel > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Donna Goodin <doniadonna@xxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Folks, I hate to say this, but what Apple's doing is just not that >> unreasonable. As many have pointed out, if you don't have a credit or debit >> card, buy a gift card and set up your account. You can get a gift card for >> $10, that's just not that much money. Once you've done that, you can do >> whatever upgrading and purchasing of free apps you need to do. I'm sorry, >> but I'm blind and I've worked my whole ****** life. Right now I'm working a >> job that I hate, but at least it's a job. If you're on a fixed income, >> maybe start thinking about how to change that. >> >> Sorry if this is bitchy, but I see no reason *at *all why someone who is >> blind has to be on a fixed income. >> Donna >>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> The problem is that many disabled people are on fixed incomes. For example, >>> I run out of money long before the month is through. I should still be able >>> to get free apps, download apps I already purchased but are not currently >>> on my device, and schedule genius bar appointments. Without money, I have >>> no access to even change the password on the lock screen because the Apple >>> password is essentially broken until their or is money available. Buying a >>> gift card to leave money on is essentially the same as requiring a deposit, >>> a bad move on Apple's part imo. >>> And please don't lecture me on budgeting. I get $700 each month and somehow >>> don't qualify for food stamps. >>> Jewel >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I’m totally confused. How would Apple Know if you have money in your bank >>>> account or not? >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker >>>> ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>> >>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Even if you are setting up a genius bar appointment, getting a >>>>> free app, or updating those you already have, it won't work if you don't >>>>> have a valid card. This means if you use a debit card, if you run out of >>>>> money, you cannot do anything requiring an Apple password. I I am going >>>>> to complain to Apple about this and I hope many will join me in this. Not >>>>> everyone has a credit card and not everyone has available funds all the >>>>> time. >>>>> Jewel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> reply://herekittykat2@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhoneWith questions, concerns or issues not related >>>>> to the topics discussed on list please email the list admin to >>>>> alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter: >>>>> betoa221 >>>>> >>>>> To subscribe to the list send message to >>>>> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the subject line. >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list please send message to >>>>> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the subject line. >>>>> >>>>> To adjust your membership options please visit: >>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-ios >>>> >>>> With questions, concerns or issues not related to the topics >>>> discussed on list please email the list admin to >>>> alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter: >>>> betoa221 >>>> >>>> To subscribe to the list send message to >>>> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the subject line. >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the list please send message to >>>> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the subject line. >>>> >>>> To adjust your membership options please visit: >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-ios >>> PS >>>> they know because your card gets cut off if there is no money >>> With questions, concerns or issues not related to the topics >>> discussed on list please email the list admin to >>> alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter: >>> betoa221 >>> >>> To subscribe to the list send message to >>> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the subject line. >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the list please send message to >>> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the subject line. >>> >>> To adjust your membership options please visit: >>> //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-ios >> >> With questions, concerns or issues not related to the topics >> discussed on list please email the list admin to >> alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter: >> betoa221 >> >> To subscribe to the list send message to >> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the subject line. >> >> To unsubscribe from the list please send message to >> accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the subject line. >> >> To adjust your membership options please visit: >> //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-ios > With questions, concerns or issues not related to the topics discussed > on list please email the list admin to alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on > skype at betoa221, or on twitter: betoa221 > > To subscribe to the list send message to > accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the subject line. > > To unsubscribe from the list please send message to > accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the subject line. > > To adjust your membership options please visit: > //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-ios With questions, concerns or issues not related to the topics discussed on list please email the list admin to alberto.a775@xxxxxxxxx, or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter: betoa221 To subscribe to the list send message to accessible-ios-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subscribe on the subject line. 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