I'm with you. I've just seen my first one of these. A 3 year old HP became very unstable and eventually wouldn't boot. Turns out something on the main board was going. With computers as cheap as they are I told my friend to skip the repare costs and just buy something new. ----- Original Message ----- From: nick danger To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:05 AM Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech Hi, Fascinating. It took 3 years to go from a pc to the garbage dump? A PC does not go from working fine for 3 years to suddenly landing on lemon hill without something or someone causing it ta do so. Most Hp's from what I've seen are generally stable. Worst thing I've ever seen with one of those is having to reformat it cause of the client's neglegence. Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Hart To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:55 AM Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech So you had it three years before it started having those problems, that's some time to have a computer, without problems I wouldthink.. ----- Original Message ----- From: arlene To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:29 AM Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech No she didn't. but it was the same name of computer. But it ran windows 98. It was a bad computer from the word go. We didn't discover it's problems until we got it online. Just after the 3 year warrantee ran out. ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Hart To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 8:25 PM Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech I don't think she had this one, this one has a quad processor with 2.4 gigabytes ea. 8 gigabytes of ram.. It is an HP Pavilion, with 8 gigabytes of ram and 750 gigabytes of hard drive.. It also has capabilities to play/burn DVDs and CDs and can record movies from your TV on to your computer with a cable and an antennae that came with it, I doubt that windows 98 had those capabilities, because I had 98 myself one time along with M.E. and Windows XP also.. I ran 95 a long time ago and 98 also.. I don't think she had this same computer, don't think it was even out then.. This has too much speed and power to run Windows 98 for one.. This is really what some poeple run games on like Evrquest and such, takes a lot of power.. ----- Original Message ----- From: arlene To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:35 PM Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech Well, My room mate had that same computer with windows 98, It was a lemon! everything on it went. ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Hart To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:27 PM Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech I have thought aboutdoing that since my ram is 8 gigabytes and this is a brand new computer I just got it last month, it is an HP Pavilion with plenty of hard drive and speed and power and quad processor with 2.4 gigabytes of processor each.. I was told Real Speak had larger files than Eloquence, I ran XP with a little Power Spec computer for 6 and a half years with only 25 megs of ram and 5.10 Jaws version and hardly ever lost speech with it. It goes sometimes with Windows mail which has to have Windows messenger with it, a tech support person with HP suggested buying Microsoft Outlook and disabling messenger and Windows mail, which Windows mail comes with this computer and it like Outlook express.. Thanks for your suggestion.. Pat6 ----- Original Message ----- From: arlene To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 9:49 PM Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech Well, You might want to give Fs a call. Talk to them about this. good luck! ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Hart To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:01 PM Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech Thanks, I think I will ask FS about the larger files in Real Speak that someone told me about and ask if that is causing the problem.. I definitely will not trade in this computer, I will just put Eloquence back on if that is speech and it's files that are causing it. ----- Original Message ----- From: arlene To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:56 PM Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech Why not get rid of real speak that comes with Jaws? If you lose speech then you might have to take back your computer trade it for a different one. ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Hart To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:24 AM Subject: [accesscomp] Problems with Vista & Jaws speech Hi All, Recently I purchased a new computer, with Vista Home Premium on it and am running Jaws version 10 with Real Speak instead of Eloquence because I like the sound of it better than Eloquence but was told it had larger files than Eloquence does. My computer is a HP with 4 quad core AMD processors 2.4 gigsbytes a piece. I am using Windows mail which has to have Windows Messenger installed to run this mail which comes iwith Vista so thoughtI'd try using it since it is similar to Outlook Express which I have used before. What it is doing is losing speech sometimes in Windows mail. It is set to do Windows automatic updates and this morning instead of it sitting on the start menu telling me to press windows key and M to go to the desktop it was totally shut down on it's own this morning when I first sat down to the computer, I assumed it had done an automatic update since it is set to do them every day at 3 a.m. Also Windows Live 1 Care is set to do it's own updates around 6 a.m. every day.. Usually though it will restart itself, not totally shut down and turn itself off, I hve never had to happen before this morning. Also Messenger keeps popping up with a reminder messenge that it is running in the background, can't seem to ge tit to stay on the sys tray.. I even called HP tech support and they told me I might have to buy Microsoft OUtlook and take Messenger off and uninstall Windows Mail and go to using Microsoft OUtlook.. I have used it before and it is alright, I used it before I got this computer, in fact.. I can't imagine why I keep losing speech in Windows mail or at the time when I am trying to close out Windows mail to put it on restart myself for some reason.. Sometimes when the messenger reminder messenge comes on, it losses speech there. Also in a website with a combo box, I pressed alt down arrow and it said open list, but when I down arrowed to choose what I wanted to chooseon the list there was no sound, and I lost speech again.. I wonder what is going on? I wonder if the larger files of Relal Speak could be causing this? Could you advise , if any of you have used Jaws 10 with REal Speak and have a HP computer that is using Vista HOme Premium, I don't know if the 4 processors make a differenceor not as far as losing speech with Jaws but got this computer with the 4 processors and the rest of the package because it was such a good deal price wise and it was recommended to me as being a great buy by someone who had worked as a system engineer and who also has had a little experience with Jaws.. Thank you so much for your heop in advance, any help will be appreciated with these problems.. Pat Dallas -------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.97/2370 - Release Date: 09/14/09 11:36:00 ------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. 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