[accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech

  • From: "Pat Hart" <pat.hart@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:19:22 -0500

Thanks, I have never heard of it..
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: nick danger 
  To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:28 AM
  Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech


  Houdy Pat,

  One more thing that I should have added in the previous post.  is that 
mozilla Thunderbird works quite similar to outlook express and is not web 
based. 

  Tony
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pat Hart 
  To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:14 AM
  Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech


  Scott, Are you saying that on this computer of mine they offer Microsoft 
OUtlook? The free trial version on this one as far as I know only has Word, 
Excel& Access.. Unless Microsoft OUtlook is somewhere else besides in programs, 
it has Windows Mail which is similar to Outlook Express that that is not 
Microsoft OUtlook as far as the program itself.. I am wondering if I should go 
out and buy Microsoft OUtlook seperately and then disagle Messenger and Windows 
mail and just run Microsoft OUtlook as a program for e-mail as far as aclient.. 
I don't care for Yahoo mail or gmail or any web based mail really.. 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Scott Granados 
    To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:35 PM
    Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech


    No they also offer a version with outlook or outlook as an individual 
program for testing.  I had the full pro version for a 60 day trial.


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Pat Hart 
      To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 9:17 PM
      Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech


      Yes, they offer a 60 day trial version called office home and student 
2007 but it only has Word 2007 and Excel and Access in it and not Microsoft 
Outlook.. I would have to buy that seperately and install that.. I would think 
it is the video card before the PC as far as problems with speech since I have 
only had this system since the end of August.. It may be something I am doing 
wrong also as I am not real used to how this desktop is set up and the whole 
set up for Vista is somewhat different than XP, no matter what anyone says, it 
is different.. I had XP for years and knew it upside down and sideways and 
could find anything in it in my sleep, but not true with this new operating 
system.. I may be doing something wrong that I am not aware of as far as 
closing out a program or maybe doing something with messenger that is causing 
it to lose speech since messenger is linked with Windows mail.. I will just 
have to talk with FS and see what they say about what is going on, they should 
know about this OS and the 4 processors and Real Speak in Jaws.. As always, 
thanks for your advice..
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Scott Granados 
        To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:30 PM
        Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech


        I used jfw with windows mail for about 6 months now with no problems.  
I suspect the problems are with the pc itself or with the video chain, not 
winmail.  That's not a bad work around though but be sure outlook works before 
you spend the bean.  I believe Microsoft offers a trial version of office for a 
60 day test drive.

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Pat Hart 
          To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 8:27 PM
          Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech


          I have thought aboutdoing that since my ram is 8 gigabytes and this 
is a brand new computer I just got it last month, it is an HP Pavilion with 
plenty of hard drive and speed and power and quad processor with 2.4 gigabytes 
of processor each.. I was told Real Speak had larger files than Eloquence, I 
ran XP with a little Power Spec computer for 6 and a half years with only 25 
megs of ram and 5.10 Jaws version and hardly ever lost speech with it. It goes 
sometimes with Windows mail which has to have Windows messenger with it, a tech 
support person with HP suggested buying Microsoft Outlook and disabling 
messenger and Windows mail, which Windows mail comes with this computer and it 
like Outlook express.. Thanks for your suggestion.. Pat6
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: arlene 
            To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
            Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 9:49 PM
            Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech


            Well, You  might  want to  give  Fs  a  call. Talk to them  about  
this. good  luck!
              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: Pat Hart 
              To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
              Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:01 PM
              Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech


              Thanks, I think I will ask FS about the larger files in Real 
Speak that someone told me about and ask if that is causing the problem.. I 
definitely will not trade in this computer, I will just put Eloquence back on 
if that is speech and it's files that are causing it.
                ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: arlene 
                To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:56 PM
                Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech


                Why  not  get  rid of  real speak  that  comes  with Jaws? If  
you  lose  speech  then  you  might  have to  take  back  your  computer  trade 
it for a  different  one. 
                  ----- Original Message ----- 
                  From: Pat Hart 
                  To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                  Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:24 AM
                  Subject: [accesscomp] Problems with Vista & Jaws speech


                  Hi All, Recently I purchased a new computer, with Vista Home 
Premium on it and am running Jaws version 10 with Real Speak instead of 
Eloquence because I like the sound of it better than Eloquence but was told it 
had larger files than Eloquence does. My computer is a HP with 4 quad core AMD 
processors 2.4 gigsbytes a piece. I am using Windows mail which has to have 
Windows Messenger installed to run this mail which comes iwith Vista so 
thoughtI'd try using it since it is similar to Outlook Express which I have 
used before. What it is doing is losing speech sometimes in Windows mail. It is 
set to do Windows automatic updates and this morning instead of it sitting on 
the start menu telling me to press windows key and M to go to the desktop it 
was totally shut down on it's own this morning when I first sat down to the 
computer, I assumed it had done an automatic update since it is set to do them 
every day at 3 a.m. Also Windows Live 1 Care is set to do it's own updates 
around 6 a.m. every day.. Usually though it will restart itself, not totally 
shut down and turn itself off, I hve never had to happen before this morning. 
Also Messenger keeps popping up with a reminder messenge that it is running in 
the background, can't seem to ge tit to stay on the sys tray.. I even called HP 
tech support and they told me I might have to buy Microsoft OUtlook and take 
Messenger off and uninstall Windows Mail and go to using Microsoft OUtlook.. I 
have used it before and it is alright, I used it before I got this computer, in 
fact.. I can't imagine why I keep losing speech in Windows mail or at the time 
when I am trying to close out Windows mail to put it on restart myself for some 
reason.. Sometimes when the messenger reminder messenge comes on, it losses 
speech there. Also in a website with a combo box, I pressed alt down arrow and 
it said open list, but when I down arrowed to choose what I wanted to chooseon 
the list there was no sound, and I lost speech again.. I wonder what is going 
on? I wonder if the larger files of Relal Speak could be causing this? Could 
you advise , if any of you have used Jaws 10 with REal Speak and have a HP 
computer that is using Vista HOme Premium, I don't know if the 4 processors 
make a differenceor not as far as losing speech with Jaws but got this computer 
with the 4 processors and the rest of the package because it was such a good 
deal price wise and it was recommended to me as being a great buy by someone 
who had worked as a system engineer and who also has had a little experience 
with Jaws.. Thank you so much for your heop in advance, any help will be 
appreciated with these problems.. Pat Dallas   


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