[accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech
- From: "Pat Hart" <pat.hart@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:14:54 -0500
Scott, Are you saying that on this computer of mine they offer Microsoft
OUtlook? The free trial version on this one as far as I know only has Word,
Excel& Access.. Unless Microsoft OUtlook is somewhere else besides in programs,
it has Windows Mail which is similar to Outlook Express that that is not
Microsoft OUtlook as far as the program itself.. I am wondering if I should go
out and buy Microsoft OUtlook seperately and then disagle Messenger and Windows
mail and just run Microsoft OUtlook as a program for e-mail as far as aclient..
I don't care for Yahoo mail or gmail or any web based mail really..
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Granados
To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:35 PM
Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech
No they also offer a version with outlook or outlook as an individual program
for testing. I had the full pro version for a 60 day trial.
----- Original Message -----
From: Pat Hart
To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 9:17 PM
Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech
Yes, they offer a 60 day trial version called office home and student 2007
but it only has Word 2007 and Excel and Access in it and not Microsoft
Outlook.. I would have to buy that seperately and install that.. I would think
it is the video card before the PC as far as problems with speech since I have
only had this system since the end of August.. It may be something I am doing
wrong also as I am not real used to how this desktop is set up and the whole
set up for Vista is somewhat different than XP, no matter what anyone says, it
is different.. I had XP for years and knew it upside down and sideways and
could find anything in it in my sleep, but not true with this new operating
system.. I may be doing something wrong that I am not aware of as far as
closing out a program or maybe doing something with messenger that is causing
it to lose speech since messenger is linked with Windows mail.. I will just
have to talk with FS and see what they say about what is going on, they should
know about this OS and the 4 processors and Real Speak in Jaws.. As always,
thanks for your advice..
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Granados
To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:30 PM
Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech
I used jfw with windows mail for about 6 months now with no problems. I
suspect the problems are with the pc itself or with the video chain, not
winmail. That's not a bad work around though but be sure outlook works before
you spend the bean. I believe Microsoft offers a trial version of office for a
60 day test drive.
----- Original Message -----
From: Pat Hart
To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 8:27 PM
Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech
I have thought aboutdoing that since my ram is 8 gigabytes and this is
a brand new computer I just got it last month, it is an HP Pavilion with plenty
of hard drive and speed and power and quad processor with 2.4 gigabytes of
processor each.. I was told Real Speak had larger files than Eloquence, I ran
XP with a little Power Spec computer for 6 and a half years with only 25 megs
of ram and 5.10 Jaws version and hardly ever lost speech with it. It goes
sometimes with Windows mail which has to have Windows messenger with it, a tech
support person with HP suggested buying Microsoft Outlook and disabling
messenger and Windows mail, which Windows mail comes with this computer and it
like Outlook express.. Thanks for your suggestion.. Pat6
----- Original Message -----
From: arlene
To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 9:49 PM
Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech
Well, You might want to give Fs a call. Talk to them about
this. good luck!
----- Original Message -----
From: Pat Hart
To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:01 PM
Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech
Thanks, I think I will ask FS about the larger files in Real Speak
that someone told me about and ask if that is causing the problem.. I
definitely will not trade in this computer, I will just put Eloquence back on
if that is speech and it's files that are causing it.
----- Original Message -----
From: arlene
To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:56 PM
Subject: [accesscomp] Re: Problems with Vista & Jaws speech
Why not get rid of real speak that comes with Jaws? If
you lose speech then you might have to take back your computer trade
it for a different one.
----- Original Message -----
From: Pat Hart
To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:24 AM
Subject: [accesscomp] Problems with Vista & Jaws speech
Hi All, Recently I purchased a new computer, with Vista Home
Premium on it and am running Jaws version 10 with Real Speak instead of
Eloquence because I like the sound of it better than Eloquence but was told it
had larger files than Eloquence does. My computer is a HP with 4 quad core AMD
processors 2.4 gigsbytes a piece. I am using Windows mail which has to have
Windows Messenger installed to run this mail which comes iwith Vista so
thoughtI'd try using it since it is similar to Outlook Express which I have
used before. What it is doing is losing speech sometimes in Windows mail. It is
set to do Windows automatic updates and this morning instead of it sitting on
the start menu telling me to press windows key and M to go to the desktop it
was totally shut down on it's own this morning when I first sat down to the
computer, I assumed it had done an automatic update since it is set to do them
every day at 3 a.m. Also Windows Live 1 Care is set to do it's own updates
around 6 a.m. every day.. Usually though it will restart itself, not totally
shut down and turn itself off, I hve never had to happen before this morning.
Also Messenger keeps popping up with a reminder messenge that it is running in
the background, can't seem to ge tit to stay on the sys tray.. I even called HP
tech support and they told me I might have to buy Microsoft OUtlook and take
Messenger off and uninstall Windows Mail and go to using Microsoft OUtlook.. I
have used it before and it is alright, I used it before I got this computer, in
fact.. I can't imagine why I keep losing speech in Windows mail or at the time
when I am trying to close out Windows mail to put it on restart myself for some
reason.. Sometimes when the messenger reminder messenge comes on, it losses
speech there. Also in a website with a combo box, I pressed alt down arrow and
it said open list, but when I down arrowed to choose what I wanted to chooseon
the list there was no sound, and I lost speech again.. I wonder what is going
on? I wonder if the larger files of Relal Speak could be causing this? Could
you advise , if any of you have used Jaws 10 with REal Speak and have a HP
computer that is using Vista HOme Premium, I don't know if the 4 processors
make a differenceor not as far as losing speech with Jaws but got this computer
with the 4 processors and the rest of the package because it was such a good
deal price wise and it was recommended to me as being a great buy by someone
who had worked as a system engineer and who also has had a little experience
with Jaws.. Thank you so much for your heop in advance, any help will be
appreciated with these problems.. Pat Dallas
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