I would as why should we be left out in the cold. how about they turn off subtitles for the deaf for a year see how they like it? nothing against the deaf and people with other disabilities but we are not treated equal On 4 Apr 2011, at 09:07, Damon Rose wrote: > The Goodman's box, though welcome, is a little late on the market. It's > only now giving access to the basic EPG for really the first time. > Sighted users have had this access since the late 90s and now things are > moving on. YouView is the advanced FreeView platform. > > The answer is ... If you want access to the video on demand and > recordability features that YouView will bring, and you want it from > your box, then you need to shout about it. You need to tell the RNIB, > who wil be very pleased to take your correspondence, and you need to > tell manufacturers of these boxes as well as Ofcom or maybe the > Department of Culture Media and Sport. > > To be effective, a campaign would need to start. Does anyone care > enough? If you knew who to write to, would you do it? > > ...Damon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of william lomas > Sent: 04 April 2011 08:59 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: youview > > they should be there at launch really if they are going to implement > other features. > Why would I want to use my laptop to brose an EPG when the RNIB does it > all for me > > On 4 Apr 2011, at 08:43, Damon Rose wrote: > >> The YouView accessibility hooks, or API, are not planned to be there >> at launch in spring 2012. It could be a year later, spring 2013, >> before you get access. >> >> And, yes, that access will come, not from the set top box itself - but > >> via a website or app on a separate laptop, iPhone or mobile phone. >> >> As yet it's unclear as to who will create that computer or app. We >> expect that all boxes will somehow have an automatic over the air >> upgrade, or an internet pull upgrade, so that I believe at this stage >> every box wil be able to have that API on board. >> >> And once it is, you'll be able to view on demand video as well as >> record programmes locally on your hard disk. >> >> Some visually impaired people will prefer it being on a separate >> interface as it means they don't have to get off the sofa and stick >> their noses up against the TV to find the program they want. They will > >> simply lift their mobile phone to their eyes and stay nice and cosy on > >> the sofa. So we should perhaps shift away from the idea that a talking > >> box is the ultimate in access because there may be other ways ... If >> they work seemlessly, easily and without fault. >> >> Whether older less techie people can achieve this kind of access >> though is one that I assume will be tested. >> >> ...Damon >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of william lomas >> Sent: 04 April 2011 07:17 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] youview >> >> hi youview iwll be perfect for me on launch, but it seems from reading > >> about the API we need laptops connected to the box it won't like the >> RNIB box, have its own voice built in? >> >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >> >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/ >> This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain > personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically > stated. >> If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. >> Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in > reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. >> Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. >> Further communication will signify your consent to this. >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal > views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. > If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. > Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance > on it and notify the sender immediately. > Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. > Further communication will signify your consent to this. > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq