@Matt.what formal would you prefer the guide be in, I can maybe investigate the possibility of conversion to an alternative format. On 23/10/2014 23:40, mjw wrote: > Would it be possible to offer a more usable format to our friends on > the list? I would be happy to help with the conversion. > Matt > At 15:32 23/10/2014, you wrote: >> if anyone is interested I have a derailed document on the voiceover >> features for the mac, however I should point out that it is in pdf >> format. I can either post a link to the file to the group or if >> preferred can send a copy via email to people individually off list. >> >> Just ask. ( smile) >> On 23/10/2014 15:07, David Griffith wrote: >>> There are pos and cons of having a Mac but nowadays I tend to spend >>> more time on the Mac than Windows as I increasingly prefer the OS. >>> Of course the Mac can also runWindows, even with the Mac OS if you >>> use Fusion so you can have the best of both worlds.. >>> >>> However there is a definite learning curve to learning to use the >>> Mac. I got a Mac ;in 2011 and I am still learning all the time. If >>> you have some sight transferring to the Mac will not be so much of >>> a learning curve but using Voiceover is very different from using >>> Windows Screenreaders. In some areas voiceover is more powerful than >>> any Windows screenreader but in others less so. What is undeniable >>> is that you need to learn a whole new skill set, people often forget >>> how much they invested in learning Windows and a similar effort will >>> be required to get the most out of OS and Voiceover. >>> iTunes is most definitely accessible an as are the majority of >>> applications which come from Apple. >>> >>> I copy below some Podcasts I have done on using the Mac which may >>> give you an idea. There are a couple on iTunes. >>> >>> Podcast List >>> >>> Using Safari on the Mac Part 5. Strategies for using and >>> customising the Reading List. >>> >>> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/wmbw5w <%22.htm> >>> >>> Previous Podcasts >>> Using Safari on the Mac Part 4. Flexible Web with Sweet spots and >>> Reader commands. >>> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/alr2yi >>> <https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/alr2yi> >>> >>> >>> Using Safari on the Mac Part 3 Bookmarking part 2- Launching >>> bookmarks and bookmarks folders from the Desktop / or the Dock. >>> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/04aj3b <%22.htm> >>> >>> Blank URL document template to use if dragging and dropping does not >>> work on your Mac to create bookmark shortcuts. >>> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/gvj63a >>> <https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/gvj63a> >>> >>> Using Safari on the Mac Part 2 . Bookmarking Part 1 >>> Bookmarking, organising bookmark folders and >>> and organising quick access to Favourite web sites through the >>> Favourites bar keystrokes. >>> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/fpye9z >>> <https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/fpye9z> >>> >>> >>> Using Safari on the Mac Part 1 -- The pros and cons of Quick Nav and >>> the Web rota. >>> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/qtftnl >>> <https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/qtftnl> >>> >>> Using VLC to play upto 1000 Radio Stations on the Mac >>> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/uev995 >>> <https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/uev995> >>> >>> Working Radio Stream Folder and sub folders containing over 1,000 >>> Radio Streams as explained in the above Podcast. >>> >>> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/8v58fh >>> <https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/8v58fh> >>> >>> Using VLC to play an RNIB Talking Books on the Mac with Variable Speed. >>> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/kve0ky >>> <https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/kve0ky>. >>> >>> Easy Music Listening with Column Browser in iTunes >>> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/gp431y >>> <https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/gp431y> >>> >>> >>> iTunes Part 2 Using Playlist to listen to RNIB and Mp3 Talking Books >>> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/e6kohy >>> <https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/e6kohy> >>> >>> Spell Checking on the Mac Part 1 >>> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/uuul6e >>> <https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/uuul6e> >>> Spell Checking on the Mac Part 2 >>> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/z5wvc8 >>> <https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/z5wvc8> >>> >>> Part 3 Proof Reading on the Mac. >>> >>> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/b3m395 >>> <https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/b3m395> >>> >>> >>> An Introduction to the QFeed RSS Newsreader on the Mac >>> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/02uu48 >>> <https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/02uu48> >>> >>> Adding an RSS Feed from Safari to QFeed. >>> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/tr5unm >>> <https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/tr5unm> >>> on >>> >>>> On 23 Oct 2014, at 14:45, Tassie da hiphop kid <tassie@xxxxxx >>>> <mailto:tassie@xxxxxx>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey y'all. >>>> I'm looking for pros and cons of windows vs mac. I currently have >>>> a windows pc with windows 7 and an iphone. I cannot use itunes at >>>> all with nvda on windows and therefore my iphone is inaccessible >>>> with a pc. I am thinking of getting a mac to make my apple life >>>> easier. Is itunes fully accessible on a mac? What pros and cons >>>> for either system are there. I don't want to spend a grand and >>>> then wish i hadn't when i could get a beast of a pc for 500. >>>> >>>> I currently use programs such as firefox, wavepad, winamp, >>>> thunderbird, wordpad, skype, etc. I don't use office so the fact >>>> i've heard it isn't too accessible on a mac isn't an issue for me. >>>> >>>> Thanks, Louise. >>>> >>>> >>>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>> ** unsubscribe >>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>>> ** immediately-following link:- >>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>>> <mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq]> >>>> ** or send a message, to >>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> with the Subject:- faq >> >> -- >> *_PRIVACY IS A BASIC RIGHT - NOT A CONCESSION _* -- *_PRIVACY IS A BASIC RIGHT - NOT A CONCESSION _*