[access-uk] Re: when is the new braille coming out as i have had some information
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:51:07 +0100
Hi Jackie,
Well that's a well-reasoned logical argument there <Smile>.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jackie Cairns
Sent: Monday 23 June 2008 19:16
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: when is the new braille coming out as i have had
some information
All I can say, and it is my personal opinion, is poppy-cock!
Jackie
Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx
Skype Name: Cairnsplace
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 11:27 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: when is the new braille coming out as i have had
some information
> Hi, OK, here's the logic. I have already explained that 256 will be a full
> stop, which occurs in the middle of words frequently enough to make this
> change pretty worthwhile. With the other changes, it also makes simple
> computer expressions like email and web addresses save an awful lot of
> space. The reason for removing the dot 6 signs is that dot 6 N or dot 6 Y
> would imply that the following letter is capitalised, so mid word capitals
> become much simpler and take up less space than they would now. The loss
> is
> not that significant as dots 56 N remains. Dots 56 is used to switch into
> what is called grade 1 mode, which basically means that what follows is
> not
> a contraction, and as you would never need to have this before a letter of
> the alphabet you can still have those signs. This is achieved by what
> might
> seem a complex way of defining braille symbols in ueb. Save to say, all of
> the righthand only braille characters, plus the number sign, don't
> actually
> mean anything on their own, but have to be followed by what is known as a
> root character to become part of a symbol. That actually gives you a whole
> load of new possible 2 cell braille symbols. It also allows the letter
> sign
> rules to be simplified and translated more easily too.
>
> Traditionally, these changes would have had a negative impact, but the way
> technology and mixed case words are proliferating, this gives us a code
> that
> handles something we know will happen in quite an ellegant way in my view.
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>
>
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> From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 6:16 PM
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: when is the new braille coming out as i have had
> some information
>
> But Dave, if you've read the booklet, you can't deny that they are hoping
> to
> ditch the lower D, the dot six Y, etc. How can that be justifiable for
> taking up a little less space? Think of this sentence: "It's a pity that
> daddy can't meet Paddy and Sally at the station". In that sentence, you
> will lose the five-six Y in pity, add two lots of double D in daddy and
> Paddy, lose the dot six Y in Sally, and the dot six N in station. Sorry
> but
> I can't see the point in getting rid of stuff like that.
>
> Jackie
>
> Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx
> Skype Name: Cairnsplace
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 5:53 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: when is the new braille coming out as i have had
> some information
>
>
>> Hi, no, that is just completely not true. The only contractions that go
>> go
>> for reasons and research has shown that it hardly takes up any more space
>> than SEB. The stories people are hearing are far more extreme than the
>> reality!
>>
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>>
>>
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>> From: "Husna Begum" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 5:47 PM
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: when is the new braille coming out as i have had
>> some information
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> i heard that unified english braille as they call it is going to be
>> without
>> contractions, so all grade 1. who wants that it's already bulky enough! i
>> hope it never comes out. what's so good about it anyway?
>>
>> Husna
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jackie Cairns
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 5:36 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: when is the new braille coming out as i have
>> had
>> some information
>>
>>
>> I wish never, but there you go!!
>>
>> Jackie
>>
>> Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx
>> Skype Name: Cairnsplace
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: marie peake
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 4:30 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] when is the new braille coming out as i have had
>> some information
>>
>>
>> hi all
>>
>> i am just wondering when the new lot of braille is coming out as i
>> recieved a booklet with some examples and a questionair in.
>>
>> from marie
>>
>>
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