er, have a braille embosser too if it is that important? There's often second hand ones for sale at reasonable prices, then chose your translator, and you can produce just about anything for yourself in whatever flavour of braille you like! Cheers Dave -------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 5:02 PM To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [access-uk] Re: when is the new Braille coming out as I have had some information Dave says "relatively > speaking, the amount of electronic Braille that is read will increase remarkably." Yes perhaps so, and then we end up with hardly any hardcopy Braille. What happens when a Braille display fails? Will it be repaired within few hours, no. So how does one read Braille when they have no Braille display? Of course, non of this matters does it if one doesn't depend on Braille 100% This I suggest is the crux of issue that some blind people seem to take the selfish view, as long as they are ok to access information that's all that matters. It is very tiring reading on a Braille display, for 2 3 plus hours, compared to reading Braille hardcopy book. Regards, Derek ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1469 - Release Date: 5/27/2008 1:25 PM ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq