[access-uk] Re: when is the new Braille coming out as I have had some information

  • From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:20:47 +0100

Hi, well, the copyright thing is being covered by various groups, and is 
gaining momentum now, at last, and I agree about the grant idea. I'd very 
much go for a grant for a notetaker if there was one that replaced a PC, but 
there isn't really yet. I think it could easily be done, just add a few 
things to the Humanware or FS range, like Kurzweil 100!


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From: "Rays Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:11 AM
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Re: when is the new Braille coming out as I have had 
some information

That's very well put Dave.  I do believe if Braille has a future at all it
is on electronic devices.  As if to emphasise this point - and Victor Stream
isn't a Braille device - it can now in fact read BRF files with its TTS.
So, if you don't have dual sense impairment, here's another example of
having good quality audio (and) dots under your fingers too)  if you have
the choice of using a Braille display.

I think this code change could do its bit towards increasing choice of
Braille format material, but it's not the whole story.  As always,
resourcing is important not to mention clearing outmoded copyright
restrictions out of the way, and increasing availability of teaching.

I'd go further and say a grant aught to be in place for helping to pay for
Braille displays, particularly for those who's need is greatest, as well as
helping with the cost of maintenance.  That way we could scrap the whole
cumbersome business of posting and storing Braille, not to mention the
actual cost of production.

I do like this topic as its one of those that really genrate a lot of
heat -and we need this just now what with the lack of summery weather!

Cheers,
Ray.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Re: when is the new Braille coming out as I have had
some information


> Well, here we go again, making unfounded judgements about people!
>
> OK, let me give you some answers. You are simply going to have to realise
> that what I and no doubt many others are saying is true. I know you won't
> believe me, because you don't want to believe me, but you need to realise
> the world is moving on!
>
> Some people who are braille readers find that the braille won't fit
> through
> their letter box, and would rather have it delivered in a format they can
> have delivered any time. In fact, many get them by email now.
>
> Others do it simply because it is quicker to listen to something than it
> is
> to read it in braille. Others because they can put it on a portable device
> and listen to it on the move, or even read it on a braille display without
> having all the bulk. Others do it so they can keep back copies for longer.
> Others do it because it is quicker to navigate an HTML file than a braille
> volume.
>
> When, many years ago, I was on RNIB's Executive Council, I remember
> starting
> receiving committee papers by email. I was the first person to term up at
> a
> meeting with the entire papers on a Braille Lite. There was one point in a
> particular meeting where the exact wording was being debated. There were
> blind and partially sighted people in the meeting, but I was able to
> search
> for the relevant piece of text, find it within seconds, and read it out to
> the whole group. This was over 10 years ago now! And these are just a few
> examples.
>
> On your point about talking books, I know plenty who read loads of braille
> so find them more relaxing, others who run out of braille reading, and so
> on.
>
> And I also know many working people simply don't have time to read hard
> copy
> braille. Using notetakers gives them the advantage of both braille and
> quick
> navigation, so they have more choice how to consume the media they are
> given
> if it is electronic. This is the future of braille. While there will
> always
> be people and situations that demand hard copy, more and more will use
> electronic devices, even with braille displays, more and more often, and
> for
> more and more tasks!
>
> Cheers
> Dave

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