[access-uk] Re: we don't stand a hope!

  • From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 17:16:26 +0100

Hi,

Believe it or not, headings and links. <Smile>.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Henry Miller
Sent: 27 July 2015 18:19
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: we don't stand a hope!



Hi Steve

Being totally blind, how do sighted people refer to headings and links?

best wishes

Henry



-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steve Nutt
Sent: 27 July 2015 15:45
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: we don't stand a hope!

Hi Clive,

Not really. The only other one I can really think of that may trip people
up is radio buttons. But these are self explanatory, just buttons that make
a single selection, a bit like old radio presets.

Checkboxes are usually called by sighted people, tick boxes.

But that's about all I can think of.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 27 July 2015 15:10
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: we don't stand a hope!

Hi,

No, never. In fact, it was quite some time before I realised that drop down
menus and combo boxes were the same thing. Are there any other instances we
should be aware of, where the screenreader calls a feature by a name that
most people don't use in everyday language? Perhaps if there are, we should
all be made aware of them.

Best,
Clive



-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Rajmund
Sent: 27 July 2015 15:06
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: we don't stand a hope!

Hello,
Anyone heard of combo boxes said as selection lists?

----- Original Message -----
From: <Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Monday, 27 July 2015 2:31 pm
Subject: [access-uk] Re: we don't stand a hope!



Hi Steve,

So how could we get developers to make screenreaders say what people
usually say, such as 'drop down menu' instead of 'combo boxes'?

Regards,
Clive


Best,
Clive



-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 27 July 2015 14:17
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: we don't stand a hope!

Hi,

Actually it isn't. Sighted people don't call them combo boxes, it is only
screen readers that call them that, and web standards. Sighted people call
them drop downs. You can't expect sighted people to always use jargon that
we understand through screen readers. Ask any sighted person what a combo
box is and see what you get.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Spring Flower
Sent: 20 July 2015 13:26
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: we don't stand a hope!

oh dear is all i can say without swearing, that is bad though

trace

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To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 12:48 PM
Subject: [access-uk] we don't stand a hope!


Hi all

Somehow I managed to lock myself out of HSBC online banking and had
to go through a process with their internet security team.

The girl with whom I spoke didn't even know what a combo box is!

ATB

David W Wood


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