Hi Billy I used to subscribe to Sky, and I never had any real problems with them. At that time, their website was accessible, and I found their disability service helpline staff very nice. My only real gripe, and it still makes me furious if I start, is the fact they will not allow you to really choose what you want in your package despite the fact they advertise to that effect. For example, I wanted all the sports channels and broadband, nothing else! I had BT for my phone, and I did not want all the trash channels that repeat the same old stuff day in, day out. But Sky would not allow me to have just the entire sports channels, broadband, and nothing else. And, as far as I know, they still don't let you have just the sport. This is because they want more money off you by providing groups of categories like the entertainment package, or the knowledge package, or a children's package. Then you build the sport or movies premium channels on top of that. This is when the money shoots up. They never let you have broadband on its own before, but they do now. So, as far as I am concerned, Sky isn't about choice. They don't let you pick and choose to your exact liking, and I refuse to pay their ridiculous prices just to watch Roger Federer grace every court in the land, or get stuck in about the Champions League. Now if Roger Federer were to invite me to his matches, or pay for my Sky Sports bill every year, I might take him up on it, but I somehow don't think that'll happen, do you? (big smile). Seriously though, I think Sky like to think they are about accessibility and choice, but they aren't when you start digging deeper. Having said that, however, Virgin Media seem to be as bad or worse from what I've seen and know from others. Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Billy I Sent: 22 August 2012 20:53 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: virgin net and broadband discussion Jackie, I fear you might just be right. I actually like the fact of having, tv phone and broadband in one package, but the price is ridiculous at times, and Virginmedia are one of the worst, Billy -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: 22 August 2012 1:45 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: virgin net and broadband discussion Hi Billy Then my advice would be for you to contact Sky and ask how long you have left on your contract in the first instance. I don't know if where you are moving to will allow for a dish, so you could I suppose emphasise that fact to them. But I fear, ultimately, that they will tell you how much you have left on your contract, and ask you to cough up. Try not to get involved in a bartering game with them. They will doubtless tell you they can offer you all sorts of fantastic deals to keep you as a customer, but if you don't want to be with Sky any more, don't be drawn into that. Just be polite but assertive that you want to move elsewhere for your broadband service. Sorry I can't be more helpful, but certainly contact Sky in the first instance and see what they have to say about the remainder of your contract. The best of luck. Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Billy I Sent: 22 August 2012 13:11 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: virgin net and broadband discussion Jackie, exactly, I will be moving home soon, and do not want to take Sky with me, and therefor, need to know if I can Opt out, Billy -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: 22 August 2012 12:40 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: virgin net and broadband discussion Hi Billy I've lost the thread a bit, what's happened with you and Sky that you need advice? Do you want to opt out but don't know how to or something? You can always ask any company for a copy of their terms and conditions I guess. I hope we never have to move broadband because it's an utter minefield. Good luck. Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Billy I Sent: 22 August 2012 11:34 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: virgin net and broadband discussion hello Jackie, I am with Sky, but for the life of me. I cannot remember the terms, Billy -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: 22 August 2012 9:57 AM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: virgin net and broadband discussion Hi Billy At least 12 months, it was when I was with them. Remember that these people are ruthless if you want to opt out of your contract, so do be very careful before signing up. Once you do, and pass what they describe as their "cooling off period", you have basically cooked your goose. If you try to leave, they will want you to pay the remainder of the contract. It's just business practice, so be warned! Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Billy I Sent: 22 August 2012 09:49 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: virgin net and broadband discussion gosh. do you have any Idea, how long the sign up terms are with Sky?, Billy -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tristram Llewellyn Sent: 22 August 2012 9:45 AM To: 'access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [access-uk] Re: virgin net and broadband discussion Just beware that when you sign up for fibre broadband you will be signed up on an 18 month contract. Regards. Tristram Llewellyn Technical Support Sight and Sound Technology -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Niamh Sent: 21 August 2012 20:31 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: virgin net and broadband discussion thank you very much, I am in a cable area and so will go with it. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gregory" <jgm.gregory@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 10:40 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: virgin net and broadband discussion > Virgin Media have 2 services, one for those not in a cable area and > works via the telephone line as does every other provider, or cable > services which are delivered via fibre optic cable. If you are in a > cable area I assume you have the choice of either, but if not in a > cable area only the telephone line option would be available. 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