[access-uk] Re: various penfriend questions answered
- From: "Barry Toner" <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 21:26:12 +0100
Great stuff.
Hehe, she even took me litterel on the Yes/no front. Too funny!
Smiles
Barry.
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Long, Alison
Sent: 07 July 2009 21:23
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: various penfriend questions answered
Hi Barry
Yes, you can delete the clips.
Regards
Alison
Alison Long
Products & Publications
Royal National Institute of Blind People Bakewell Road Orton Southgate
Peterborough
PE2 6XU
England
Tel: +44 1733 375178
Fax: +44 1733 375383
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Barry Toner
Sent: 07 July 2009 20:58
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: various penfriend questions answered
Hi,
Many thanks for your answers.
One thing that would be useful to know. If you can a yes or no would be
great.
Can the end-user delete voice clips? Even on a PC if connect to the Usb
Intrface?
I realise 50000 voice labels and 74 hours is an massive storage for such a
unit. However, the point is it does have a limit. My reasoning it could
dbe used up if the data is not removed. I do realise that labels can be
recycled but can redundent space be gotten back>
Thanks very much for your attention and answers to this thread.
It's a rare treat to have someone in the midst of the product line speak so
public like that on an adaptive technology list.
Regards,
Barry.
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Long, Alison
Sent: 07 July 2009 16:30
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: various penfriend questions answered
Hi,
David is correct. Although you can't buy those labels again, there are over
50,000 labels or codes, so you can just carry on. You can delete the
recordings, or apply the labels to reusable objects like clips, tags on
elastic bands etc. 70 hours is a lot of labels for short messages.
Certainly in the focus groups, people were talking about using one pen for
everyday use, like food labelling, messages etc and another for their
collection of CD's, DVD's, wine etc.
To answer a few other questions:
- yes, it has stereo headphone jack
- yes, it has an MP3 player
- replacement labels packs currently contain 380 labels.
- How loud is the recording? This is a really difficult one to answer. I
think you have to try it for yourself.
I have given an update on stock in a previous post, so won't repeat that,
unless someone shouts.
Hope I've answered all the questions posted, let me know if I haven't.
Thanks
Alison
Alison Long
Products & Publications
Royal National Institute of Blind People Bakewell Road Orton Southgate
Peterborough
PE2 6XU
England
Tel: +44 1733 375178
Fax: +44 1733 375383
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
David Russell
Sent: 07 July 2009 14:42
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: penfirned
Ibrahim,
I think you are probably correct. I'm not sure it matters too much though
as it is easy to record another label. As long as you can buy an a pack, a
b pack and so on, then you just carry on.
74 hours of storage is a lot of packs of meat in the freezer?
I do wonder though whether, as there is a USB cable, you can delete what is
in the pen, therefore making room for new codes?
Whatever the limitations may be, it does sound like a good product. I just
ordered mine from the online shop, although I am expecting some delay.
David
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 07 July 2009 13:46
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: penfirned
Hi Carol.
That's what I'm trying to establish now from Alison *smile*. You get a fair
amount of labels to get you started, but the problem is that once you've
used the included coded labels, you can't get direct replacement labels with
the same codes, only the packs A and B meaning that all the information you
recorded for the 120 and odd labels you got with the device is useless
unless you've any of those labels left. That's the way I understand it
anyway.
All the best, Ibrahim.
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From: Carol Pearson <mailto:carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:41 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: penfirned
Hmmm! I don't quite get this bit about additional labels ...
Anyone explain some more. So, I order my Penfriend and the labels that come
with it. I use up my labels and need more ... What are the restrictions
here? I don't get the bit about only one pack of A or B ... It seems that
you have the starter pack (and I don't know whether that's an "A" or a "B")
but then you can only order packs sequentially ("A" through to whatever pack
letter RNIB produce) but have I got this or am I really confused???
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Carol
carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: Dean Wilcox
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:24 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: penfirned
> Hi,
> I've pasted the info from the RNIB online shop, all your
> questions are answered. A link to the page is at the
> bottom.
>
> Available to pre-order. Stock due mid-July 2009. Easily
> record, and re-record, information using this versatile,
> pocket-sized, easy-to-use product and the self-adhesive
> labels. You can instantly play back the recordings
> anywhere simply using the PenFriend - no computer
> required.
>
> Use to label: food items, including freezer food, and
> even include sell by dates and cooking instructions, film
> and music collections, household objects or even to
> organise letters and other paperwork as well as record
> shopping lists or leave audio messages.
>
> It can also be used as a portable notetaker, record your
> message and keep track of it by placing the allocated
> label in a small notebook or in your diary.
>
> Use in school to label classroom equipment and resources
> such as skeleton models, art material storage drawers and
> field trip findings. Pupils can use it to organise their
> coursework, add entries to their homework diary and
> access class timetables.
> simply allocate one of the coded self-adhesive labels and
> record and store your message on the PenFriend. To
> playback hold the PenFriend over the label - it announces
> recordings specific to each label
> there is no limit to the length of each message
> the pen as up to 70 hours of recording time available
> ability to download MP3 files including books and music
> if desired
> supplied with 127 labels in a mix of sizes and shapes,
> built in speaker, USB cable, neck lanyard and two AAA
> batteries. Replacement batteries are available from RNIB
> (product code CP05). NB: RNIB does not guarantee
> batteries
> microphone (product code DL76M) for recording from a
> distance available as an optional extra
> two additional labelling packs are available, each
> containing 380 labels; Pack A (DL77) and Pack B (DL78)
> please note: only one set of Pack A and B labels will
> work with one PenFriend, this is due to the coding
> embedded on the labels that enables the PenFriend to read
> its contents. If you would like two additional label
> packs you will need to purchase one of Pack A and one of
> Pack B
> additional packs (C, D, etc) will be introduced later in
> the year, to ensure you can continue to label items
> around your home, office or school.
>
>
> DL76 - PenFriend labelling device
> Price: £54.99 (Ex. VAT) £63.24 (Inc. VAT)
>
>
http://onlineshop.rnib.org.uk/display_item.asp?n=11&c=27&sc=163&id=4047&it=1
&l=3&d=0
>
>
> At 11:04 07/07/2009, you wrote:
>
> Hi, has anyone found out more information on the
> RNIB penfriend.
> *can we re-use each label more than once
> *will the labels be able to used to recognize foods that
> have been in
> the freezer?
>
> Will
> p.s. can the instructions for it I wonder, even though it
> is not
> released yet, be downloaded anywhere?
>
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