[access-uk] Re: ueb and SEB for banks statements

  • From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 12:16:51 -0000

Hi Steve

I do remember the issue about upper case indicators was put to vote
some years ago. And I think it was voted out.

But this time round there was no vote for, or against,
the new code. We were jus told what was to happen.
and that's it.


If there had been a vote, surely we would have
been told how many voted, and how many voted for and against

Derek
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 11:58 AM
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: ueb and SEB for banks statements

Hi Alison,

I thought it did go to the vote? There was at least from memory,
plenty of
consultation about it. We all knew it was coming way before it got
here.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of
CJ &AA MAY
Sent: 07 December 2015 08:28
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ueb and SEB for banks statements

I can see the benefits of UEB (although the differences in code was
never a
barrier to reading other countries' material) and I can even see why
changes
needed to be made. However I deeply resent having capitalisation
imposed on
me and the need to read all that clutter before reaching the text. And
I
strongly resent that the code should have been imposed without any
sort of
vote (and we all know why this was - it wouldn't have been voted for!)
I can imagine the uproar if the UK Government suddenly decided that
all
English speaking countries should use the same spelling and that in
future
all publications would use the American style of spelling!
In truth I don't know how the code could have been amended to meet
everyone's needs but I really can see no reason why British
publications now
are forced to use capitalisation and show font changes.
Alison

-----Original Message-----
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Steve Nutt
Sent: 07 December 2015 08:21
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ueb and SEB for banks statements

Hi Alison,

Does it not make sense to you that at last, UK and US Braille for
example,
will be the same? Cross-border reading will be easier. Ambiguous
contractions are gone? I can only see good from UEB personally.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of
CJ &AA MAY
Sent: 06 December 2015 22:14
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ueb and SEB for banks statements

No, my bank and credit card statements still come in SEB - hurray!
Sorry, I do see the argument that UEB is here to stay and that the
more
often we are exposed to it, the better able we will be to deal with it
but I
still feel very angry and resentful how this new code has been imposed
upon
us.
Alison


-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of
Derek Hornby
Sent: 06 December 2015 21:18
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] ueb and SEB for banks statements

Hi All
To those of you that receive a Braille bank statement,
is it now using the new Braille code?

My bank HSBC now uses the new UEB code.

Well I am wondering if we have any right to a choice code used.

I don't want to get in to a discussion about the reasons for the
change, but rather, discuss the right to a choice of code used.


Well we can choose grade 1 or grade 2 Braille.
So why not a choice for the Braille code.
Not sure how the transcription software would manage it!

Regards, Derek

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