Hi Trace, First, you tell your "computer guy" all about "Help and Support" which is accessible from the Start menu. Once he's done that, and found his way to "Magnifier Settings", he'll reach a dialog with 6 check boxes. The last one is "Show magnifier" - tell him to uncheck it. George. ________________________________ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Spring.flower Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:52 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] the magnification strip in windows vista hi Before we got supernova installed on to our laptop we were using the magnification strip that is part of windows itself, but now we can't get it to go away, my computer guy couldn't manage it, how do you get the thing out of start up? Trace