[access-uk] Re: smart phones and touch screens
- From: Ian Macrae <ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 14:00:29 +0100
Mike the other thing I've found in addition to the accuracy issue you mention
is that it can often take a long time to process what's been said and it is
therefore often quicker to use an external or even the onboard keyboard.
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On 16 Sep 2013, at 13:51, Mike Cassidy wrote:
Hello Ian and listers,
The reason I don't use Siri very much is that it is not accurate enough for
dictation and so you have to edit what you've dictated, so overall it's
quicker to use a Bluetooth keyboard.
Cheers,
Mike
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Hazel, your point about making calls, in particular the example you gave of
calling a cab is an interesting one. Many people who use iPhones no longer
need to call cabs by phone because they have an app which can locate and
request a cab without the need to make a call. My children both have smart
phones and the one thing neither of them use them for is making calls. For
the most part I agree with your contention about external keyboards,
however, I love the fact that I can use my Braille display and keyboard for
inputing and reading text with my iPhone. Personally, and for some reason
I'm not able to identify, I've never really taken to Siri the dictation app.
On 14 Sep 2013, at 12:12, Hazel Darvell wrote:
Jim I have been following this topic and have a few simple questions
for those who are already useing them.
I have sighted friends who use both Galaxy and I phones and report to
me that they don't make good calls, well guess what I use a phone for
when I am on the go? yup calling a taxi or others.
Secondly, do people use the voice activated menus? such as dictating
their text messages.
I saw the Apple phone as I said before and this had a touch keypad at
the bottom but as there was nothing to feel I had no idea which letter
I was useing.
Do people use an external keyboard? if so surely this defeats the Idea
of portable devices if you have to carry this as well.
Sorry for all the questions but really want to know.
Thanks.
Hazel
On 14/09/2013 11:33, Jim McAuslan wrote:
Hi Andy,
I'm looking forward to embracing the Apple Mac challenge. Do you
have a link or address for an e mail group re Apple related stuff for
vi users?
Jim Mc
On 14/09/2013 10:42, Andy Collins wrote:
And to add to this, there are good podcasts/tutorials and email
groups. I bought my Macbook air in July and now feel very
comfortable with it. There are still one or two things I struggle
with, but mostly all is now going well, and I love it's light weight
and portability, and it's excellent build and feel -
Andy
On 13 Sep 2013, at 21:55, Ian Macrae
<ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Jim, again the move to Mac from PC is a big one so if you need
assistance there are more of us than there used to be ready to give it.
On 13 Sep 2013, at 21:33, Jim McAuslan wrote:
Hi Ian,
That's greatly reassuring. The general consensus of opinion is
that the IPhone is the best route to go.
As I said to Jackie earlier, I'm also looking forward to getting
my very first Apple laptop and that'll be another learning curve,
smile.
Cheers.
Jim Mc
On 13/09/2013 15:53, Ian Macrae wrote:
Jim, the first touch screen I tried was a Nokia phone running
Talks and it was hopeless as far as I was concerned. By that
time my sighted wife had started using an iPhone and I gave that
a go and took to it like a duck to water. For me the way in
which the user interacts with the iPhone screen has always felt
highly intuitive. Once you get used to the distance between the
different icons, and know that nothing is going to happen until
you make it happen it just seems to fall into place. It is also
worth going to an Apple store to have a play and asking for
assistance from someone who is familiar with Voiceover. there's
always at least one member of staff who is.
On 13 Sep 2013, at 15:47, Jim McAuslan wrote:
Hello Jackie,
Maybe I should try an IPhone next. I'm looking to get my first
Apple Mac laptop soon so maybe It'll be logical to try an
IPhone.
Jim Mc
On 13/09/2013 15:11, Jackie Brown wrote:
Hi Jim
When I first got an iPhone 4, I felt exactly the same as you do
now. I found it hard to answer and end a call, and generally
dreaded going near it.
But I decided that if I could use my iPod Touch successfully,
then I would vow to apply the same logic to an iPhone, and
embrace it once and for all.
So I did that at the start of this year, and am glad I did now.
I know Steve will shout me down here, but I find the iOS
experience slightly easier than Android. That isn't to say I
don't like the latter, I definitely do. But I find it easier
to skip round my iOS devices than I do my Nexus 7 tablet. I
can't explain why, I just find it more of a hassle.
But Mr Nutt will say it is all down to training and getting to
know your device well, and I accept that, (smile). I guess you
just feel more comfortable with some things better than others.
Please don't feel despondent Jim, I think that, if we are being
honest, we have all felt the same way at one point or another.
Kind regards,
Jackie Brown
Twitter: @thebrownsplace
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Hi List,
Earlier today I wandered into my local O2 shop to investigagte
how to use a smart phone with a touch screen. I tried out both
the Samsung Galaxy S3 and the S4 and had a very difficult and
disempowering experience.
I just couldn't seem to get the "double tap" thing going and
both phones kept on bombarding me with loads of information
that I founhd distracting. I came away feeling slightly
depressed and disempowered.
Am I alone when it comes to touch phones with speech?
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