[access-uk] Re: setting up automatic defragmentation in disk keeper was Re: Re: computer housekeeping

  • From: "David Russell" <david.russell8@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:37:52 +0100

Hi,

I had exactly the same problems as Wendy so decided to do as Steve
suggested.  The instructions worked without a problem, and the
defragmentation only took about five minutes when I rebooted.  I have an 80
gb c drive.

Now it will be interesting to see if the performance is speeded up.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 10 August 2007 09:46
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: setting up automatic defragmentation in disk
keeper was Re: Re: computer housekeeping


Hi Wendy,

I will say that I can use Diskeeper with JAWS loaded here, I deliberately
tried it, so it must be something about your disk or machine perhaps.
Please try this though, it might help.  It may be worth having a pair of
eyes around when you try this.

1.  Go into Diskeeper if you still have it installed.

2.  Tab once to the drive list.

3.  Select Drive C and then either the context or applications key, or shift
F10.

4.  Down arrow to Boot Time defragmentation and hit enter.

5.  Check the box that says defragment at boot time, this will be disabled.

6.  Tab over and check that the radio button says Manually defrag the next
time I start the computer.

7.  Check the box that says Defragment paging file.

8.  Check the box that says Run chkdsk before defrag.  It will give you a
warning, and say are you sure?  Say Yes.

9.  Finally, tab to apply and press enter or space.

Now reboot your computer.  It will take quite a long time to reboot, but
what it will do is to defragment the swap file, and all the files that
Windows can't normally defrag because Windows locks those files.  It will
take quite a while to restart, but don't worry about this, it is normal.
Finally, boot time defrag will be disabled again after you do this, until
you go through these steps again, because you don't want it doing that every
time it boots, because of the time it takes.  But doing it once a month or
so doesn't hurt I have discovered.

Once it has restarted, just let it defrag automatically.

It may now work with JAWS, but no guarantees on this.

I hope it helps though.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Wendy Sharpe
Sent: 09 August 2007 23:42
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: setting up automatic defragmentation in disk keeper
was Re: Re: computer housekeeping

When you have had to learn JAWS for work, and then spent hundreds of pounds
on it for home use after retiring, another few hundred pounds for Window
Eyes doesn't sound like a good idea.  You get used to one screenreader, and
don't really want to start learning everything all over again with different
commands.

I might give NVDA a go to see how it works, as it is free.  Some people
can't afford several big screenreaders, and I rather resent the tone of that
message.

Wendy

Wendy

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Peter Beasley
Sent: 09 August 2007 23:11
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: setting up automatic defragmentation in disk keeper
was Re: Re: computer housekeeping

Answer is simple.  Use window-eyes.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:53 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: setting up automatic defragmentation in disk keeper

was Re: Re: computer housekeeping


> Wendy and all, do you have problems doing a manual analysis/defragment
> with
> JAWS? This is why I was put off by Diskeeper. I could do it fine with
> Window-Eyes, but with JAWS I got an error message shortly after the
> operation started. Does anyone know why, and if so how did you fix it?
> Thanks!
> Chris Hallsworth
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wendy Sharpe" <w.sharpe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 11:56 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: setting up automatic defragmentation in disk
> keeper
> was Re: Re: computer housekeeping
>
>
> Steve
>
> I am using JAWS, and it doesn't seem to work very well with Diskeeper.  I
> have tried doing what you say below, but it doesn't just say enabled or
> disabled, it sends you into a dialog.  Whatever I do, both parts of my
> disk
> seem to keep saying disabled several times.  The checkbox for auto defrag
> seems ok, but I am not sure whether auto defrag is really on or not.
>
> Wendy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> Steve Nutt
> Sent: 09 August 2007 08:57
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: setting up automatic defragmentation in disk
> keeper
> was Re: Re: computer housekeeping
>
> Hi Alex,
>
> Go into Diskeeper from your program group, press tab once, go to the drive
> which you want to check, right click it or press the application key, and
> then arrow down.  It should say Automatic defrag enabled.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> Alexander Shannon
> Sent: 08 August 2007 12:48
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: setting up automatic defragmentation in disk
> keeper
> was Re: Re: computer housekeeping
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> I believe I said yes to automatic defragmentation, but how can I check
> this
> please.
>
>
> Alexander Shannon
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