HI Jim
I think that is the point I am making, Freedom Scientific do not want a
second hand market in their software, therefore as you say you cannot
recoup the cost. Realistically speaking buying software from someone
second hand at reduced price then and upgrading would be unlikely to be
good value for the buyer even though FS in this might get the money if the
user upgraded assuming they chose to. The preferable route is for those
who want to buy their JAWS get the latest version themselves and how they
choose to proceed themselves with upgrades will be up to them but they
would be good for the current crop of machines out there. Anything JAWS
9.0 and below is not much good when you cannot use the latest browser
anyway and you can only use it with an old version of Office which is no
longer available. Windows XP is one day no longer going to be a practical
position for many more years to come.
Regards.
Tristram Llewellyn
Technical Support
Sight and Sound Technology
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of jim mcauslan
Sent: 18 June 2012 10:44
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: selling a jaws license
Ok Tris,
Point taken, but if I purchase the upgrade, £120 and the transfer fee £75,
then I've spent £195 gbefore I try to sell this product on. I'd be as
well
to give it away.
Also, whoever I could sell this to, they would want the latest upgrade to?
So rather than sitting in my drawer doing nothing, FS will get the upgrade
price, and they've already had the original purchse price, so is it going
to
cost them more to support that product under a different owner?
Jim McAuslan from sunny Findhorn
jim.mcauslan@xxxxxxx
minds are like parachutes
work best when open
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 10:21 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: selling a jaws license
Dear Jim
Software is unlike anything else we have in the real world in that it is
not a "thing" that you have to own that actually depreciates, but instead
with software you purchase is the right to use it which is sometimes
transferrable or not according to the stipulation of the developer as
rights granted to you by its license.
Part of the reason for this is that software has an ongoing cost
regarding
its maintenance even if you no longer own it yourself. If you sell JAWS
for X amount of money that goes back into your pocket, whilst the cost of
supporting it still lies with Freedom Scientific and associated dealers.
A table or any other object can be sold and the deal is done it usually
does not require anything else however nobody is going to help if you get
a chip in the table or the leg falls off. For software it is different
because those who will have to continue to look after that copy of JAWS
brought by another individual still have the ongoing duty and cost to
maintenance and support it, replace activations, replace a dongle, figure
out why something doesn't work. This is the thinking behind a
registration fee.
The requirement to upgrade to the latest version is more an indication
that Freedom Scientific does not want a second hand market in its
software. Some developers don't even allow you to transfer a license to
another individual. I own several software titles that are like this.
On
some of these if I lose a dongle I would literally have to buy the
software all over again. With JAWS as long as your are registered you do
not have to buy your license over again.
One reason personally why I don’t think the second hand market in
software
is so good is that sometimes those with software to sell do not always
play nicely. I have personally seen more than once where somebody has
brought off a blind forum and found somebody has taken their money but
not
provided to keys to the software license itself leaving the buyer high
and
dry. This should never happen but it does.
I know now (and of course it is a Monday morning) that the hounds of hell
will be unleashed upon me as a result of putting my head above the
parapet.
Regards.
Tristram Llewellyn
Technical Support
Sight and Sound Technology
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of jim mcauslan
Sent: 18 June 2012 08:21
To: access-uk
Subject: [access-uk] selling a jaws license
Hi List,
I have a lisence for Jaws professional version 12 and it is now surplus
to
requirement but I found out that if I wish to sell on the lisence I have
to
firstly upgrade it to the latest version and then pay a transfer of
ownership fee of £80 or there abouts.
My question is why can't I sell this product to whoever is willing to pay
for it?
Why does it have to be the latest version and why does it cost so much to
transfer ownership?
Seems like a huge rip off curtesy of Freedom Scientific, or am I just
being
overly cynical?
Jim McAuslan from sunny Findhorn
jim.mcauslan@xxxxxxx
minds are like parachutes
work best when open
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