Tracey, I don't know if it helps much to say that I think Guide - which isn't a screen reader really, more self voicing apps - tends to be good for those who tend to be computer phobic and maybe not wishing to become too adventurous in the use of their machines. Guide does put people in a sort of safe walled garden environment, even to the existent that they cannot alt-tab out of the application and into the big bad world of Windows. Has to be admitted though that for its intended target market it is probably a much less challenging way of using a computer, even if that is at the expense of flexibility. I believe the IT for All project, funded by the Guide Cats Cds, is keen to show this to some new users, along with the more economical offerings such as System Access and some free packages. For someone who is totally blind, System Access maybe a very viable alternative. Guide has magnification, as well as good speech support, but, I repeat, it isn't a screen reader. From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- Spring.flower Hi Has anyone heard of this and if so, how good do you think it is? Also how much is it? Any information would be much appreciated. I have a friend who's getting her first computer and she's heard about this software. Trace ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq