[access-uk] Re: problem with a website
- From: "kevin and emma" <kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:24:42 +0100
hi tink, ok i reinstalled jaws today and still no joy. i haven't changed a
single setting from the defaults when jaws installs. i had a play tonight to
try and figure out exactly what jfw6.1 is doing, using:
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/incidents/cleared.html
if i place jaws at the top of the window and arrow down, there are two links
imediately below the title, the links say:
logo for national rail (i think) and
Back The Bid for the London 2012 Olympic Games
however, instead of arrowing down if i press tab, jfw lands on a combo box
which is immediately above the "get times" button near the bottom of the
page. however if i then hit tab again, supposedly from this combo box, i
land on those links mentioned above at the top of the page. also if i press
tab from any part of that page that isn't a link, from a line of text for
example, i get taken to the combo box mentioned above. it's almost like jaws
is attached by a chain to that combo box. i'm totally baffled by this one! i
don't think it's the website's fault, i've not heard of anyone else having
this problem anywhere. jfw behaves itself on most sites, but i just can't
figure out what setting i can change on my computer that will stop this
happening.
kevin - co-owner/moderator of the blind gamers discussion list
contact me on kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tink Watson" <tink@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 2:26 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: problem with a website
> Kevin,
>
> I wasn't aware that there was a difference, although it sounds very
> much like there must be.
>
> It's curious, tab indexing has been around for a long while and I'm
> not sure how Jaws could be configuered to deal with it differentlyI've got
> v4.5 installed at work, so I'll see if I can figure it out next week.
>
> I did try Sunil's suggestion of switching of page refresh, but this
> didn't seem to make much difference in 6.2. Curious.
>
> Tink.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
> kevin and emma
> Sent: 01 July 2005 20:59
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: problem with a website
>
> hi tink, i take it then that there's something different in the way jfw6
> handles such webpages compared to jfw4.2, as with 4.2 the page behaves as
it
> should. thanks for the info by the way.
> kevin - co-owner/moderator of the blind gamers discussion list contact me
on
> kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tink Watson" <tink@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 7:44 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: problem with a website
>
>
> > Kevin,
> >
> > This is a web design issue, rather than a Jaws one.
> >
> > The site uses something called Tab Indexing. You can apply tab
> > indexing to elements on a page, most commonly form fields and the like.
> What
> > this does is force the tab key to move in a very specific order, quite
> > often, nothing like the natural order of the web page as you'd expect
it.
> >
> > This is a poor design method, used when pages have no natural or
> > logical order from the outset. I'm afraid I don't believe there's
anything
> > you can do to overcome this, aside frm sending a complaint to the site
> > deveopers or owners.
> >
> > Tink.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> > kevin and emma
> > Sent: 01 July 2005 18:22
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] problem with a website
> >
> > hi all, i'm having trouble navigating:
> > http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/incidents/cleared.html
> >
> > using jfw6.1. for some reason on the nationalrail website as a whole,
the
> > "tab" key isn't taking me to the next link. on the page above for
example,
> > if i go to the top of the page and press tab, jaws seems to ignore most
of
> > the page and drops me in a combo box in the journey planner near the
> bottom
> > of the page. it seems no matter where i place myself, if it's above this
> > journey planner, jaws skips into it. there's plenty of links on that
page,
> > but jfw doesn't seem to want to know. it's only this site this happens
> with.
> > any ideas?
> > kevin - co-owner/moderator of the blind gamers discussion list contact
me
> on
> > kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
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