Mark, press the control key plus the escape key, then the letter u, then the letter u again, and the computer should shut down. All Alt f4 will do is to shut down a window. John. ----- Original Message ----- From: mark bishop To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 3:43 PM Subject: [access-uk] problem switching laptop off. Hi I have a new laptop and have not found the command to switch off the laptop properly. I have been using shift f4 but this doesn't work. The machine is an asus (I think) and I am using supernova screenreader. thanks. Mark Bishop ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3629/6884 - Release Date: 12/02/13