Hi Alastair,
Don't talk to me about Web IE <Smile>. I had cause to use Thunder the
other
day, and what an unpleasant experience that was. The problem? Because
Web
IE is a separate application, and Thunder relies on it to read HTML, I
could
not read an HTML message in Outlook using Thunder, because it doesn't have
its own virtual buffer like the other screen readers.
Any chance of building Web IE into Thunder, so it could at least become a
credible screen reader? I know it is free, but it is not much more
functional than Narrator. NVDA rules for the free stuff <Smile>.
Oh yes, and to keep this on topic, NVDA handles accessible PDF files too,
without extra add-ons.
http://wwwnvdaproject.org
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
Alasdair King
Sent: Sunday 2 November 2008 23:42
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: pdf files
(Blatant plug) There is an Accessible PDF program in the WebbIE suite.
It opens accessible PDF files and displays them as plain text. It
suffers from the same problems as all other ways of accessing PDF
files: inaccessible PDF files (containing images rather than text) and
odd order of the resulting text (if the layout is non-linear.)
Finally, there are various reading functions in Adobe Reader, though
they are quite slow to use. Check the View menu, Read out Loud menu
item. Adobe Reader 8 and 9 are much better then previous versions -
you can now choose your own voice and speed, for example.
Alasdair
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Eleanor Burke
<eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Unfortunately not Husna but I think Jaws and Suupernova that I use are
not
making provision for the pdf files in their software. Some people seem
to
find them OK and some hate them, the pdf files I mean. Like I said
though
save as text and then at least you can read it no problem. The thing is
for
a sighted person a pdf file can look identical to a print book or a print
document which can be very useful, hence these files can have graphics in
them too. Even if there are graphics and you save as text then the
graphics
are cut out in your new text file. Hope this helps.
Eleanor--- Original Message ----- From: "Husna Begum"
<mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 8:02 PM
Subject: [access-uk] pdf files
Hi,
is adobe acrobat reader the best tool to look at pdf files or is there a
better, more accessible program available for reading pdf files? if
there
is
a better program available than adobe, please can you let me know where
i
can get it from.
thanks,
Husna
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