[access-uk] Re: pda's of the shelf.
- From: "Jim Denton" <jimdenton@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 18:51:12 +0100
Hi Amro, thanks for this, I think I will sign up for the news letter as
well.
I think the interesting thing is, that you are the only one on list who has
replied on this subject. It makes me think that not too many people have
gone down this route.
Regards Jim Denton
----- Original Message -----
From: "Amro Bilal" <amro_bilal@xxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 12:59 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: pda's of the shelf.
Hi Jim,
"I wondered about the o2 device, think it was being offered on TMobile."
It might well be. These family of devices are being marketed under many
different names such as IMate, QTech and other names and by different
network providers, Vodafone, O2 etc. They all designed by a company called
HTC.
As it happened, the first item of this week's top Tech Tidbits for Thursday
news letter is about PDA's. I didn't read the article that is mentioned
myself but you might find it of some help. I'm copying the whole news letter
below as Dean asks for any forwards to be intact.
HTH,
Amro
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top tech tidbits for Thursday, May 10, 2007
I know, it isn't thursday anywhere now. A half-hour evening
commitment became a three-hour one, and I decided everybody could
survive a slight calendar change this week.
1. the May, 2007 issue of Braille Monitor contains an article
entitled Accessible Personal Data Assistance Reviews and contains
reviews of five PDA's.
http://www.nfb.org/Images/nfb/Publications/bm/bm07/bm0705/bm070508.htm
2. this week, we benefit from the efforts of several competent
volunteers. To start, as part of Blind Access Journal, Darrell
Shandrow and wife Karen created a podcast and demonstrated the
capabilities of RIM, the product from Serotek that allows blind users
to carry out remote technical support with speech output
http://www.shandrow.com/audio/podcast/serotek_rim_demo_1.mp3
3) David Bailes continues to write free VIP Accessibility
Guides. His latest contribution is a guide to windows Media Player
11 for JAWS users, though its usefulness is not limited to users of
JAWS. this 8,000-word guide can be had here
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Windows-Media-Player-11-Guide.html
and you can visit the software guides page here:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/
4) Jamal Mazrui continues to update several of his projects:
FileDir, TextPal, and the Homer Library. Download links to all these
have been given before, and are unchanged. If you have FireDir or
TextPal, you can "elevate" to the latest version by hitting
F11. Links to Jamal's projects and documentation compilations, as
well as a lot of other useful information, much of it but not all
oriented to programmers, can be found at
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com/
5) Moving out of the volunteer arena, but not totally, the Gw Micro
blog has a very useful article concerning the inaccessibility of the
new version of Hotmail, now known as windows Live Hotmail, as well as
suggestions for using the new version with window-Eyes.
http://gwmicro.com/blog/index.php/all/2007/05/09/title_1
6) Gw Micro remains the only company I know that provides a
reasonable way for a user to buy a full-featured screen reader. they
have replaced their lease-to-own program with two payment plans. the
long-term option allows a user to pay $41 down plus shipping and $39
per month for 31 months.
http://www.gwmicro.com/paymentplan.
7) Gw Micro has added an article to its Knowledge Base:
Understanding Window-Eyes Video Support
http://gwmicro.com/Support/Knowledge_Base/?kbnumber=GWKB1073
8) the May, 2007 issue of AccessWorld is now online. It includes
reviews of CCTV's, discussions of accessible household appliances, a
summary of the CSUN conference, and more.
http://www.afb.org/accessworld
9) A paper on the history of speech synthesis, with some audio
examples, is found here:
http://www.icsi.berkeley.edu/eecs225d/klatt.html
10) Useful Information for Navigating and Bidding on eBay will be
the topic for the Accessible World training to take place on GMT
Tuesday, 15 May at 00:00.
http://www.accessibleworld.org
11) Here is the link to the Google Accessibility presentation at
CSUN long with the documentation they provided at the conference.
http://easi.cc/podcasts/conference/conference.htm
12) It is still possible, since Internet radio has not yet been
curtailed, to listen to over 100 free music channels on AOL Radio by
simply providing your screen name and password. The accessibility
difficulties with the listening process can be overcome somewhat.
http://www.aol.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Denton" <jimdenton@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 10:09 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: pda's of the shelf.
> Hi really glad to get some feedback from someone out there using the
> equipment. I wondered about the o2 device, think it was being offered on
> Tmobile.
>
> Regards Jim
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Amro Bilal" <amro_bilal@xxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 12:30 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: pda's of the shelf.
>
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> I used Mobile Speak with an XDA Mini (the PDA with cellular phone from O2(
> and it worked well. And I suppose that MSP will function even better if
> used
> on a proper PDA as it were, a Dell or HP with faster processor. My brother
> used Maestro, and between the two I'd choose MSP with a main stream PDA
> off
> the shelf.
>
> I returned to using Talks on a Nokia phone because as a mobile phone, I
> reckon using a normal mobile phone is quicker, and Talks is incredibly a
> stable application.
>
> I don't know about sat nav on PDA's I'm afraid, but the MSP people or
> Steve
> Nutt should have an answer.
>
> HTH,
> Amro
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Denton" <jimdenton@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 9:31 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] pda's of the shelf.
>
>
>> Hi to all, I would like to know if any on the list are using off the
>> shelf
>> pda's with speech, and how well they are working.
>> Is it possible to use satnav with these devices.
>>
>> Cheers for now Jim Denton
>>
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