if screenreaders could read captcha graphics, that would mean that any old malicious hacker or spammer could create a script that could bypass the captcha security and either spam loads of advertising comments on blogs, open up multiple accounts on hotmail, etc. The graphic contains a difficult to read word using unusual fonts or design. The reason why they use non standard overly flurishing fonts goes back to the automation issue. If it were standard font, OCR software could read it. This means they could create scripts, spam advertising comments across the web via blogs and setup multiple hotmail accounts etc for malicious or antisocial purposes. That's for starters. The captcha relies on what humans can do, but computers can't. Sighted humans are able to process the difficult to read graphics whereas computers can't so easily if at all. Equally, if audio captchas used an easy to hear voice, it could be possible for speech recognition software to be employed so that malicious hackers or spammers could do all of what we've already discussed. That's why audio captchas spell out the words using different voices, male or female, accented sometimes, fuzzed occasionally, or with background noise. It's all to eliminate an automation process or script. I did have a really good document that I read recently ... but I binned it. Sorry. It is possible that text could be used to ask questions that involved human cognition such as "fill in the blanks - the blank sat on the mat". But this could be a) too culturally specific or b) cause issues for people with learning difficulties. ----- Original Message ----- From: goshawk To: blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; tvi-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; VICUG-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:29 AM Subject: [access-uk] overview of capture with screenreader issues for the sighted? hello list, does anyone know if there are any online documents/pages giving a brief overview of what screen readers do, and why we can't use them with the captures that seem to be cropping up on more and more websites? I ask this, as I have tried to get on a few online petitions, but they use captures, and don't have an audio version of them, but the people running them, because they want all the support they can get, are genuinely interested in improving the situation, and I would really like to have somewhere to point them that would give them the info on why screen readers will not read captures, and if possible, would also have the info on how they can make them accessible, such as with an audio version. Simon