Ah Damon, but please remember this, blind people always have friends that can help them access this kind of info. Hmm, what I could say to that attitude, still prevalent in some access desks set up for disabled people by companies is unprintable! Until companies get to the idea that their products need to give access to the disabled person, rather than relying on the disabled person's family to give them access, will we truly get access for all. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Damon Rose Sent: 15 January 2010 13:56 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: ocean tv talking set top box I'd say that the VI community were still around 12 years behind the curve when it comes to accessing EPG and set top boxes. Sky Digital came online in 1998 as did the more impressive looking electronic programme guides which are still pretty similar to what we have today. We should surely have a raft of solutions by now which stick. Further, Ofcom should be laying down the law on this stuff more effectively. And we're on the brink of a huge explosion in accessing video on demand via your set-top box. A much nicer sit back experience rather than the sit forward interactive experience of using your computer. Yet still we're talking about accessing the plain old EPG as far as I can tell. I forsee us being another decade away from being able to use iPlayer and other click and watch TV shows on the telly if we're not careful. The government and the EU are talking a good talk about increasing broadband bandwidth to 100 or 250 megabits a second. It's high speed and will enable media services to all sorts of set-top gizmos and household or portable goods. Broadband will be so much more than just giving access to the web. It's being touted as part of a new exciting expanding digital economy. I do hope inclusion, in its widest sense, becomes more of a serious concern in 2010. We've no idea what we're on the brink of and what important services we will miss out on. Set-top boxes are set to give us remote access to the NHS and video conferencing with our doctor, for instance. There's a good article about the new Manchester digital corridor today on the BBC outlining this. There's a real societal need for a future proof solution with legal backup. The technical access is a breeze, I'ts nothing special at all - it's just about the will and the politics. I keep hearing about all these solutions that are on the brink of possibly happening. I worry that they will allow us to play catchup a little and hope that they also have an eye to the digital future. Anyone know anything more about this? But in the context of Sonus digital radio players not being recomission and Wayfinder disappearing as a product ... I wonder exactly where we are and how VI people can possibly safeguard our accessible digital future when commercial- tie-ups seemingly don't work well. New insentives, new ways of working, new government intervention are surely necessary. ...Damon -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adrian Higginbotham Sent: 15 January 2010 12:56 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: ocean tv talking set top box Looks as if the ocean blue is the product developed alongside RNIB: http://www.oceanbluesoftware.co.uk/chatterbox.shtml no mention of of when it is expected to come to market though? Adrian Higginbotham Manager, leading edge research. DD: 02476797333 E: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx W: www.Becta.org.uk A: Becta, Millburnhill Road, Science park, Coventry CV4 7JJ. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Gallagher Sent: 15 January 2010 12:04 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] ocean tv talking set top box Hi all Just been on the www.blindbargains.com website and looked at the blue ocean talking set top box. does anyone know when this will be available for sale.? thanks. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq This email and any information transmitted within it may be confidential and may also be subject to legal privilege. 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