[access-uk]
- From: "Damon Rose" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:14:21 -0000
Just to say that if the only reason you're adding audio is because jaws
pronounces barkshire as burkshire, then I'd suggest that screenreader users are
really very aware of this issue and will probably not even notice. It does
sound like you're putting in a lot of effort to tackle a really tiny issue. And
I direct you again that it's not just about the listening experience, its not
radio, it's a navigation experience that talks.
When I hear horse racing fans on American TV saying they're off to the Durby, I
don't get completely confused, I figure they mean Darby.
Just trying to save you a bit of work. Self voiced sites are great but I'd have
thought that richer flash games or experiences are things that would benefit
mostly from voicing. I figure that if someone has managed to tap in the URL and
get to the talking newspaper site then they don't need the extra audio. Not in
this example. I'd be really interested to hear alternative points of view on
this based on user experience though. Anyone?
There are probably half a million mashups I could think of. Would love to hear
what you're up to off list if you don't want to talk about it openly just yet.
...Damon
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jonathan
Sent: 23 February 2010 10:08
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible theme and audio vs screenreaders
Hi Damon,
thanks for your thoughts. Also thanks to the 3 people who replied off-list and
said it works ok. I still don't know if others get a "soundconflict" though. I
thought the media=screen css value would do it, but my brand new demo install
of Jaws 11 quite happily carries on reading over the top of the audio, before
crashing spectacularly.
You asked if it needed to be read. Well, yes. Screenreaders try hard, but they
just can't cope with pronunciation of strange counties. Also, this method is
just an attempt to reduce the spam of those who choose to be listed - I realise
that there are audio scrapers now, but having
3 files chained in this method just means more custom programming for spammers
- not worth it for them.
I actually first got interested in this when a friend from Reading pointed out
a couple of years ago how bad the council's site was. For example, here's a
swimming pool timetable - and just wait until it gets to the timetable data!
http://www.reading.gov.uk/Speak/cat_684.mp3
I nearly got a gig with them reading the tricky pages, but then the funding for
visually impaired people was withdrawn along with the very minimal funding for
the local audio describers group. Apparently, that audio satisfies their visual
disability requirement. Perhaps it would surprise no-one that in the same year
they couldn't find a couple of hundred quid for me and a couple of grand to
keep audio description going, they spent £56000 on translating income support
leaflets into a variety of languages and found £2 million of land for a Mosque
right before the local elections. But I digress.
As for other accessible mashups, you're not actually far off there. I have a
couple of ideas in the works! Anything you'd like to see (or hear, rather?).
PS - You're not being told off! It's just the frustrations on my part of 2
years experience of "please try this product currently in design and let me
know what you think" ... then silence .. then "Ok, here's the product" swiftly
followed by "I wish the button was square not round", if that makes sense!
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