I don't know how generally this is known, but I've just discovered that Panasonic DVD recorders now have the facility to record audio described programmes. Now, don't get too excited - these recorders are not in any way accessible, but if, like me, you have a sighted partner, they can set the machine to record and the non-sighted person can at least listen to the recorded programme. Of course, using freeview, it means that you don't have to pay a monthly fee for a sky+ box or a virgin V+ box. The DMR-EX769 has a 160 Gb hard disk and sells for £215 at Amazon. Steve Green