[access-uk] Re: my desktop
- From: George Bell <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 13:24:14 +0000
Hi Adrian,
I'm inclined to suggest that before you go any further, you look at what is
running on your PC at the moment with Paul.
In Windows 7 click on Start and in the Search box, type in "processes" (without
the quotes). One of the options which comes up should be, "Windows Task
Manager".
The Status Bar at the bottom of this dialog should show you the Processes, CPU
Usage and Physical Memory being used. I would ignore the number of processes
for now, but look at CPU usage and Physical Memory.
To give you a real example, I actually have 11 applications running including
Outlook, and the CPU use is showing 3% or less. However, it is no surprise
that 42% of my * Gigabytes of Physical Memory is being used. It's no surprise
that having closed all but Outlook, the CPU is fairly steady at 1% and memory
use is down to 36%.
If you do find CPU or memory use high, you can click on the Processes tab where
there's a CPU and Memory column among others. Click on the column name to sort
and see what is using all the power.
It won't be the first time I have seen a rogue program dominating things.
George.
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Adrien Collins
Sent: 27 January 2015 12:51
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: my desktop
Hi Mo
Ok mum has cleaned the pc out with the hoover, it wasn't too bad, the two fans
are working, one of them was a bit messy but otherwise ok. We restarted the pc,
the readings with speed fan are the same, no system fan, etc etc, the
temperature is still very high. 70 c plus and fluctuating. I am just going to
check it once more, make sure all my hardware is connected ok and then I am
going to turn it off until Paul comes, I am not going to risk using it too much.
Someone suggested that the Greese could have dried out but I don't know
anything about that. Any other ideas please? I will also check the processes. I
am not sure about hardware
so will leave it to the experts. Strange.
Regards
Adrien
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mobeen Iqbal
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 9:13 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: my desktop
hi adrien.
anything's possible, but its very unlikely.
all the best,
Mo.
On 27/01/2015 08:06, Adrien Collins wrote:
> HI Mo
>
> I just hope the motherboard isn't faulty, is that
possible?
> I think the fans are connected to the power supply, not quite sure
> though.
>
> Regards
>
> Adrien
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mobeen Iqbal
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 8:57 AM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: my desktop
>
> hello adrien.
>
> as i said, your motherboard sensors could be reporting 0
RPM
> because the
> fans do not provide a sensor readout and are connected directly to the
> power supply, or the software you're using could be reporting 0RPM to
> indicate that the fans are not installed or connected directly to the
> mainboard to provide a readout. without looking at your computer while
> its on, its difficult to make any assumptions as to what's going on.
> the majority of smaller motherboards only have connections for
1
> or 2 extra
> fans with a sensor readout function. ask paul if the fans have a molex
> connection or weather they're using a 3 pin mainboard connection to
> get their power. chances are they'll be molex which means they're
> wired directly to the power supply.
>
> all the best,
>
> Mo.
>
> On 27/01/2015 07:30, Adrien Collins wrote:
>> Hi Mo again
>>
>> Just mulling this over, if my power supply was to fail
or,
>> if my power supply was to fail, it wouldn't stop the fans working, I
>> assume it would stop working altogether, it
> runs
>> my drives ok so I assume it is ok, what else would stop
> the
>> fans from working? It is strange. Is it easy to up-grade
> the
>> bios?
>> Regards
>>
>> Adrien
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mobeen
Iqbal
>> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 10:28 PM
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: my desktop
>>
>> hi adrien.
>>
>> it looks like all of your fans are either jammed or
> they're
>> not
>> connected properly so as to provide a fan status readout
> to
>> the
>> software. some fans are connected directly to the power supply so you
>> have no idea when they fail initially. yes, it is a very good idea to
>> get it fully checked out. dust build up could've caused
> the
>> problem,
>> though you'd have to be in an extremely dusty house for 4 fans to
>> fail unless they were crap quality in the first place!
>>
>> all the best,
>>
>> Mo.
>>
>> On 26/01/2015 20:13, Adrien Collins wrote:
>>> Hi Mo
>>>
>>> Just to give you an up-date, it looks as if most of the
>> fans
>>> in my desktop are not working, I have turned the pc off, Paul is
>>> coming on Monday to fix my pc, I have a spare
cpu
>>> fan here plus he is bringing some fans, not sure what
> else
>>> could be causing the problems. See below.
>>>
>>> Sys Fan:0 RPM
>>> CPU Fan:1245 RPM
>>> Aux Fan:0 RPM
>>> Aux1 Fan:0 RPM
>>> Aux2 Fan:0 RPM
>>> System:34C
>>> CPU:90C
>>> AUX:57C
>>> SMIOVT4:34C
>>> SMIOVT5:34C
>>> SMIOVT6:34C
>>> HD1:31C
>>> HD0:36C
>>> Core 0:29C
>>> CPU:
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Adrien
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mobeen
> Iqbal
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 8:21 PM
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: my desktop
>>>
>>> Hi Adrien.
>>>
>>> You could try HW Monitor. link is below. that seems to
be
>>> fine regarding
>>> your CPU. if its just warm that's normal for any
> computer.
>>> is it an AMD?
>>> they always tend to get hotter...
>>>
>>> http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>>
>>> Mo.
>>>
>>> On 25/01/2015 19:17, Adrien Collins wrote:
>>>> Hi Mo
>>>>
>>>> I have copied this from my other pc via dropbox, the
cpu
>>>> temperature is fluctuating from 69 to 91 c, not sure
>> which
>>>> one you need. At present the top isn't too hot, just
>> warm.
>>>> Is there a better program than speedfan for monitoring
>> the
>>>> internal temperatures etc please.
>>>>
>>>> System:33C
>>>> CPU:91C
>>>> AUX:56C
>>>> SMIOVT4:34C
>>>> SMIOVT5:34C
>>>> SMIOVT6:34C
>>>> HD1:32C
>>>> HD0:35C
>>>> Core 0:34C
>>>> CPU:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Adrien
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mobeen
>> Iqbal
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 7:48 PM
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: my desktop
>>>>
>>>> hi adrien.
>>>>
>>>> what's the current temperature? ideally it should be
>>> between
>>>> 30 degrees
>>>> C and 50 degrees C. i've always disliked norton
>> utilities,
>>>> so they're
>>>> probably sucking up resources and making your PC run
>>> hotter.
>>>> finally, is
>>>> it an AMD by any chance?
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Mo.
>>>>
>>>> On 25/01/2015 17:35, Adrien Collins wrote:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a few questions regarding my desktop. I had a
> new
>>>>> power supply fitted to my desktop last year, I have
> just
>>>>> noticed this morning, after running the desktop for a
>>>> period
>>>>> of time, perhaps a few hours, my desktop gets quite
> warm
>>>> on
>>>>> top, the power supply was replaced last year because
> the
>>>> fan
>>>>> in the old one seized up. I have checked the fans
below
>>>> the
>>>>> power supply, I think there are two fans below, they
>> seem
>>>> to
>>>>> be putting out cold air although this morning they
were
>>>>> putting out a lot of warm air, I have just checked the
>>>> side,
>>>>> there is air coming out of the side vent too. At first
> I
>>>>> thought my cpu fan may be playing up but I am not
quite
>>>> sure
>>>>> how I would know this. I had a few problems with my pc
>> on
>>>>> Thursday, it wouldn't shut off or shut down, I rolled
> it
>>>>> back and this morning I installed norton utilities and
>>>> found
>>>>> several errors, in fact several hundred and fixed
them.
>> I
>>>>> installed speed fan, the temperature of the cpu seems
> to
>>>> be
>>>>> a bit high, again I am not sure what the temperature
>>>> should
>>>>> be, I turned the pc off for the afternoon, let it cool
>>>> right
>>>>> down but I put it back on at 4 pm, after 2 hours it is getting
>>>>> warm again. Is this normal? Should I be
>>> concerned?
>>>>> There is some air coming out of the power supply
itself
>>>> but
>>>>> not a lot. What should my cpu temperature be? I assume
>>>> that
>>>>> if anything serious went wrong my pc would shut off to protect
>>>>> itself? Also listening to it it sounds a bit
>>> noisy
>>>>> but it could be vibration on my desk. I have it
sitting
>>> on
>>>> a
>>>>> carpet tile. The desktop is one I had built a few
years
>>>> ago
>>>>> in 2012, I use windows 7 pro on it. I may be worrying
>> for
>>>>> nothing but I pick up on noises and this doesn't quite
>>>> sound
>>>>> right to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Adrien
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