[access-uk] Re: "mp3 to midi conversion"
- From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tris-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:39:28 +0100
HI Joe
"Now, how would the software cope with a full symphony orchestra Strings,
wood-wind, brass, piano, timps chellos, bass, drums into MIDI!!! Would you
get a JPG of the conductors' batton movements? Then bring on a 90 voice
choir"
The point is that it doesn't do this and this is probably the biggest
obstacle for most people. I may contuct a few experiments when time allows
just to see how good this really is on terms that it can handle.
Regards.
Tristram Llewellyn
Sight and Sound Technology
Technical Support
www.sightandsound.co.uk
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Paton" <joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:20 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: "mp3 to midi conversion"
hi George,
Well it's good to have your assumptions challenged. The Lord knows how
they convert polyfonic wave-forms in to midi, that alone bears looking in
to. I guess the reason for this type of conversion, might be, say you have
a difficult guitar rif, you could I guess convert it into midi, and see the
notes, their values and BPM either as ticks or real note lengths in the
event list of your sequencer. Now, how would the software cope with a full
symphony orchestra Strings, wood-wind, brass, piano, timps chellos, bass,
drums into MIDI!!! Would you get a JPG of the conductors' batton
movements? Then bring on a 90 voice choir
I'm not sure what the original questioner had in mind regarding MIDI
conversion, Wrongly I assumed converting it to instruments as assigned to
channels. HEy Ho.
Cheers.
Joe Paton
At 15:53 11/04/2005 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi Azar,
>
>How can you say that MP3 to Midi format is expensive? Do
>you expect Shareware (free) software to give you "cash back"
>as well? (Smile) Here is one for starters:-
>
>http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/IntelliScore_Polyphonic
>/
>
>George.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of .
> > Sent: 11 April 2005 15:38
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: "mp3 to midi conversion"
> >
> > Thanx a bunch to all who put in their thoughts regarding
>this
> > topic of
> > mine which is some what of interesting indeed and I came
>to
> > this conclusion that in orderfor me to convert any mp3 to
>a
> > midi format will be costly not to mention the head ache
>it
> > might give me and I was well aware of that other thinggy
>of
> > midi being converting to mp3 files though none the less,
>I
> > want to thank everyone who shared their time at this..
>OH
> > yeah, one more
> > thinggy before I sign of, some of you must know some
>cool
> > midi sites
> > where I could download midi files easily? Thanx again..
> > Best wishes
> > Azar
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tris-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 5:47 AM
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: "mp3 to midi conversion"
> >
> >
> > > There are tools that allow you to do this, although how
> > valuable they are
> > > really will depend on what you feed into them and what
>you
> > want them for.
> > > The analasys of audio is notoriously complex and whilst
> > some of these bits
> > > of software do a remarkeable job of pitch tracking they
>are
> > still likely
> > to
> > > have problems here and there. A lot of it seems to be
> > aimed at getting
> > > tunes onto mobile phones that play MIDI.
> > >
> > > I've tried one package which as I say does a remarkable
>job, but the
> > > material you put in will almost certainly need to be
> > edited. The real
> > > difficulty is that most of what people want to convert
>is
> > not just a solo
> > > instrument like a piano or a flute, the former being
> > especially suited.
> > In
> > > most cases it will be kids trying to get mobile versions
>of their
> > farourite
> > > pop tune. The issue here is that most even these are
>multi-track
> > > masterpeices and the resulting MIDI file piles all of
>what
> > it "hears" into
> > > that one MIDI file including any vocal work (if any
>these days).
> > >
> > > Basically I think that whilst this is an interesting
>tool,
> > you'll probably
> > > still be buying ring tones unless you are a musician
> > familiar with MIDI in
> > > which case you can make a much better job of it yourself
>as
> > you know what
> > > should land on which MIDI channel.
> > >
> > > Regards.
> > >
> > > Tristram Llewellyn
> > > Sight and Sound Technology
> > > Technical Support
> > > www.sightandsound.co.uk
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 4:05 PM
> > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: "mp3 to midi conversion"
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > This is talking from going to MP3 to Midi format, not
>the other way
> > > round.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > > Andrew.
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > > Of Steve Nutt
> > > Sent: 10 April 2005 15:58
> > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: "mp3 to midi conversion"
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Andrew,
> > >
> > > Yes, you can just set the recording output to What You
> > Hear, and record
> > > the output from the sound card using Sound Forge, Total
> > Recorder, or any
> > > of those. Play the MIDI back in Winamp, and record it
>using Sound
> > > Forge, or one of the others mentioned.
> > >
> > > Another way you might be able to do it, though I have
>never tried it
> > > yet, is to use Winamp's own Wave Writer plugin. This
> > records any output
> > > from Winamp directly to a WAV file. Then you can
>convert
> > the Wav to an
> > > MP3.
> > >
> > > All the best
> > > --
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> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > > Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson
> > > Sent: 10 April 2005 12:19
> > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: "mp3 to midi conversion"
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Steve,
> > >
> > > Ok, how exactly would this work - are you saying that
>the sound
> > > card when I play an MP3 or other audio is transmitting
>data
> > to the midi
> > > port? If so, what is the success of doing such an
> > operation (i.e, have
> > > you tried it)?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > > Andrew.
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
> > > Sent: 10 April 2005 08:59
> > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: "mp3 to midi conversion"
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Andrew,
> > >
> > > What about using a sound recorder, such as Total
>Recorder, or
> > > Sound Forge, to record the output from the MIDI port on
>the
> > sound card,
> > > then save it as MP3? That would certainly do it.
> > >
> > > All the best
> > > --
> > > Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind
>computer users.
> > > Telephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS:
>+44(0)1438 759589
> > > mobile: +44(0)7956 334938,
> > > Email: Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > > <http://www.comproom.co.uk/>
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Andrew
>Hodgson
> > > Sent: 09 April 2005 18:36
> > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: "mp3 to midi conversion"
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > There may be some way of doing it, but MIDI and MP3/Wave
> > > data are very different - MIDI data being data that MIDI
>
> > software reads
> > > and plays it through the MIDI output system, whereas
>MP3/Wav is just
> > > pure sound data.
> > >
> > > If there is any software that does this, which I doubt,
> > > it would have to be quite expensive, quite technical and
>
> > possibly won't
> > > give you what you want.
> > >
> > > Let me know if you find anything as I would be
> > > interested to hear results.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > > Andrew.
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of AZAR!!
> > > Sent: 09 April 2005 17:30
> > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [access-uk] "mp3 to midi conversion"
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi ya all, It happens to be my first posting on this
> > > mailing list and I hope that it will certainly be a
>great learning
> > > experience from lot of senior experts in this field of
>adoptic
> > > technology which brings me to my question on hand and
>
> > that is, there
> > > anyway to convert mp3/wave to midi format? if yes, How
>can
> > it be done?
> > > Much appreciation for your time...
> > > Azar K
> > > Toronto, Canada
> > >
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