Hi Regarding Vinux, it is working very well out of the box you can get the virtual edition which you can get going under Windows in minutes. By default (like NVDA) it uses espeak which I actually like a lot. If you want to learn to use Linux Vinux is very good and the support on the mailing list is excellent too. The drawback with Vinux is that it is based on Debian Lenny which uses gnome 2.22 (the desktop) which is fairly old (the current gnome version is 2.28) and there have been substantial accessibility improvements since; since 2.26 you can use Open Office 3 and Thunderbird 3 which are a lot more accessible than earlier versions. So if you want to do some real work with Vinux GUI, you are probably better wait until the next version which will probably come out sometimes in April, will be based on Debian Squeeze and will have the latest gnome 2.28. Your other option is Ubuntu. The latest called Karmic (gnome 2.28) never worked for me having issues of slow speech etc but the version before called Jaunty (gnome 2.26) is very good and you can be productive with it - be prepared for a steep learning curve with Linux. Regards Isaac -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ari Sent: 28 January 2010 14:10 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] linux for the blind Hi all Is it worth trying to use Vinux? What can a person do with it, like can you use the Office and browse yet? I remember a few years ago I was excited about trying linux, and someone helped me partition my harddrive and install Red Hat with a screen reader called Gnopernicus, and then after that another one called Orca, but, first the voices were really rubbish, and second you couldn't hardly do anything. It was so pathetic that we couldn't even get Gnopernicus to read it's own manual in the web browser. I just gave up on linux after that, but am curious to look at it again. Thanks Ari ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq