[access-uk] Re: is this the beginning of the end for dab digital radio?

  • From: orhan deniz <orhan.deniz63@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:19:25 -0000

oh james, very strange, we get all hour stations in london that we are supposed to get: well, DAB did not work in Canada so they are using XM and satalite radio. 

i don't know if its me, but it sounds way better than DAB.
one Desadvantage to Satalite is you have to pay a subscription i think, don't quote me on that! 

orhan.
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Scholes" <jamesscholes@xxxxxxx> 
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:06 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: is this the beginning of the end for dab digital radio?
Yeah, here in Bradford, West Yorkshire, we get stations from London, Liverpool, everywhere, and not many local ones. 

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From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:01 PM
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Possibly off topic, but is this the beginningof the endfor dab digital radio
We get LBC here in the Birmingham area and can't understand why. We do have 2 UCB Christian channels. I fully concur with your views re ILR stations. WHen ILR started in the 70's, the stations were all locally based and certainly in this part of the country were worth listening to. We had an excelent station operated by Saga from October 2001 but that came to an end in March last year and was renamed Smooth radio and is nowhere near as good. 
From: <alex.thynne@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:23 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Possibly off topic, but is this the beginningof the endfor dab digital radio
well, I'll only say one thing about ILR in the UK, it isn't what it was back 
in the 1970's and 80's when the stations were truly local.  These large
companies like GCap and EMap have killed it in my view.  Station after
station playing the same music, chasing allot of the same advertising
revenues and there is little real musical choice with regard to what is on 
stations' playlists.  I'm afraid I am very disolusioned with local radio
today and there aren't enough stations prepared to broadcast minority
interest stuff either.  In the states for example, there is allot of
christian radio out there, and that's only one interest group that could be catered for. With the exception of Insight radio, I am not aware of any of the stations that I can receive, are even remotely interested in catering for people with disabilities. However, I do from time to time listen to LBC 
on Astra, and I think that speech radio stations could possibly have a
place, given that I think radios 4 and 5 live need a bit of competition
against them. Just a few thoughts, and I'll apologise for being off topic 
straight away.

Alex
skype name: grytpype2006
windows live messenger name: alex.thynne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Dave Taylor
Sent: 12 February 2008 05:53
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Possibly off topic, but is this the beginningof
the endfor dab digital radio
Hi, I very much doubt it is the end of DAB. The next national multiplex will create renewed interest, as will the next round of local multiplexes that are now being advertised. One of the problems is that GCAP are losing money 
and rationalising their stations. They are getting rid of the old GWR
stations which include Core and Classic Gold and putting their own brands in place instead. The merger of Capital and GWR was always bound to result in this. I think EMAP are also struggling a bit having probably bitten off more than they could chew buying Scottish Radio Holdings. We're heading into a recession which means advertising will fall away big time and stations will 
struggle.

Cheers
Dave


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From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 3:33 PM
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Possibly off topic, but is this the beginningof the 
endfor dab digital radio


You can here a short piece on the World at One via Listen again on the
two latest digital station shutdowns and comment from a BBC
spokeswoman re. BBC7's part, or not, in OneWord's demise.  Also some
interesting figures on running costs of DAB channels and the sort of
advertizing revenue these stations expect has been revealed on the UK
Radio list.

Five Live is chattering away in its inimitable way too, though I've
not bent an ear to it as yet.

It may be that digital radio will cater to a significant minority
given that radio is a pretty minority interest even in the UK where,
thankfuly, we are still served by some notion of non-mass market
programming, and a  mass market'  is definitely what the commercial
boys and girls want.

Amongst the factors effecting DAB's less than 'mass' reach, internet
streaming is mentioned as a probable better bet for reaching larger
audiences.  Well, and to bring things a bit more on topic, at least
that is in large measure accessible to us, even if it doesn't embrace
very readily the ability to rome and listen.

Cheers,

From Ray
I can be contacted off-list at:
mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
Peter Beasley
Subject: [access-uk] Possibly off topic, but is this the beginningof
the endfor dab digital radio


I just heard on the midday news on Radio4 that the group who own
Clasic fm are going to close there 2 dab only stations namely THe Jazz
and Planet Rock.  I don't listen to Planet Rock, but will greatly miss
The Jazz.

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