The PenFriend is £59 from the RNIB. It comes with lots of labels and you can buy more if you need them. Cheers Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kulvinder Bhogal" <kbhogal1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 7:27 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: identifying foods Just one question, how much? Kulvinder Singh Bhogal Messenger: Kulvinder@xxxxxxxx Skypename: bobba2006 Mobile: +447792888797 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 6:54 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: identifying foods > Christine, > > As you know, I'm not Hannah <Smiles> > > I'm jumping in here as I use the Penfriend pretty extensively and have had > many discussions about it. > > First, it's speech based, but you get loud speech so you may manage it OK. > Also, it's the recording of your own voice, or someone else's, if you > choose, that you'll be listening to, so this factor may help you to decide > whether it would be OK for you to use! > > It comes with a pack of labels and you affix these to whatever you want to > identify. If you're kind of thrifty therefore, you want to make the best > possible use of your labels. This means that I don't stick them directly > onto anything that will get thrown away, if I can help it, because I want > to re-use labels whenever possible. (They work out at about 3P each I > think.) > > Anyway, with a bit of help, or maybe even on your own, you can even cut > the larger labels into two or four to save costs. If you do this, though, > because the label is identified by the Penfriend and has a unique coding, > all four of those labels will be the same. This means, every time you > alter one of them, you'll alter four. This will be great if you usually > keep four tins of something, but probably not so great if you pick up one > of them, re-use and put, for example, marmalade onto that label. You'll > find then that the other three you had for tuna will now say marmalade! > <Smiles> This method though does have its uses, as I hope I've shown. > > The other thing that I do is to put my labels onto thick, durable card, > punch holes and affix these to an item by means of an elastic band. This > means you have them on jars in the fridge, or wheverever, tins if you want > and even items in the freezer which are flat boxes or bags. > > You can say whatever you want on a label, so (as a joke, when I was > getting tired one day) I called marmalade "Paddington and I have been > known to sing a little too"! You can also label books, CD's, letters and > just about anything onto which you can affix a label. > > I did try out a method of putting labels onto small magnets purchased from > Staples, but I found these got knocked off tins quite easily and it was no > good if you wanted to stack tins in a cupboard to save room. I also > bought some key fobs, recommended by another user, but again, over all I > find the card method works best for me. You can, though, use a label > placed inside a tiny bag and affix this to something, so that the label is > kept perfectly clean, if this is what you want; since the Penfriend reads > through clear plastic bags. > > There is something like 70 hours worth of recording on each pen so, > technically, you could get someone to read a book for you if you liked. > The only thing about this is that it's very basic recording. There's no > facility to pause whilst reading; you'd simply have to go back and listen > again! This is why I have sometimes taken out my phone (on which I keep a > label) with some items for shopping, but not too many, or you're listening > for too long and having to listen over and over again. > > The pen has a lovely neck cord, so you can carry it around the house with > you. There are four buttons in all, so not much to get used to! You do > need it with you both to read and record labels, so would need to take it > with you if you carried a shopping list this way. > > You can easily enough save all your recordings to computer, just in case > the batteries die in your Penfriend. I've had my batteries for months and > they still haven't gone, as yet, and I haven't lost any data recorded. > > If you use up all labels supplied, you can purchase another pack or two > from the RNIB, but you must ensure you do not purchase the pack with the > original name, since these labels will be identical to the ones you first > used ... and you know tthat doesn't work ... <Smiles> > > All in all, though, it's a good and easy piece of kit and I wouldn't be > without mine. > > If you have any further questions then please ask and I'll do my best to > explain some more. > > I hope this is helpful. > > -- > Carol > ---- Original Message ---- > From: "Christine Weetman" <goatmum@xxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 12:17 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: identifying foods > >> Hannah, how does the penfriend work? Can you describe it >> please? Also can you put the labels in the freezer? Do >> they stick or what? Are they re-useable? Can you use >> them on tins? Please explain as I am thinking of buying >> one, so many people have them. Disability is not a >> barrier to life, just another hurdle which has to be >> overcome. (written by Christine Weetman, June 2010) ----- >> Original Message ----- >> From: "Hannah Day" <hannahday2009@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 10:12 AM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: identifying foods >> >> >>> Hi when i buy my food from the shopp i always put a >>> label on it meaning a pen friend label and this works a >>> treat for me >>> chat soon hannah >>> >>> >>> Hannah Day >>> E-mail and facebook: hannahday2009@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> MSN: hannahday1989@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Skype: hannahday >>> >>> On 21/06/2010 09:30, martin wilsher wrote: >>>> Indeed Jackie, this is how I identify my foods. I put >>>> a label on them. Means I can, if the label doesn't fall >>>> off, which 9 times out of ten it doesn't, pile >>>> everything in the freezer and have informed selection >>>> of my foods. >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of >>>> Jackie Cairns >>>> Sent: 21 June 2010 09:23 >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: identifying foods >>>> >>>> Hi Will >>>> >>>> Before you put it in the freezer, mark it in some way >>>> so you know what you >>>> will be opening. You can identify packaging with >>>> Braille Dymo, the Penfriend and other ways if you are >>>> so inclined. If someone helps you round the >>>> supermarket, make a note on a voice recorder of how >>>> long to shove it in the oven. >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind Regards, >>>> >>>> Jackie Cairns >>>> J&M Work-Ability >>>> >>>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> www.work-ability.co.uk >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of >>>> william lomas >>>> Sent: 20 June 2010 21:35 >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: identifying foods >>>> >>>> good idea but when you take the food out freezer you >>>> still wont know what you ahve >>>> >>>> On Jun 20, 2010, at 8:54 PM, James, Lyn, Nash& Twinny >>>> wrote: >>>>> Tescos is really good and Asda generally do it too >>>>> although I think Tescos >>>> is slightly easier to sue. >>>>> >>>>> James, Lyn, Nash& Twinny >>>>> On 20 Jun 2010, at 19:55, Deborah Palmer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi >>>>>> >>>>>> If you do online shopping you can generally get the >>>>>> cooking instructions on the webb site sainsbury's and >>>>>> Tescos do it >>>>>> Debbie >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James, >>>>>> Lyn, Nash& Twinny Sent: 20 June 2010 18:15 >>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: identifying foods >>>>>> >>>>>> There are talking bar code scanners I think, but I'm >>>>>> not sure where you'd get them from and they are not >>>>>> designed to do what you want. The only product i can >>>>>> think of is developed by an Italian company, but as >>>>>> usual it is incredibly overpriced. I'll have to take >>>>>> a look around to try and find the link for you. >>>>>> Although I think Steve Nut may >>>> sell it. >>>>>> >>>>>> TC >>>>>> James, Lyn, Nash& Twinny >>>>>> On 20 Jun 2010, at 18:10, william lomas wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Has anyone developed a product that we can run over >>>>>>> a box of food for >>>>>> example and hear what it is, and how long to cook it >>>>>> i.e., the >>>> instructions? >>>>>>> I can use the penfriend but yet again, need sighted >>>>>>> help to actually know >>>>>> what I am about to cook in the future >>>>>>> I"d have though by now a device to read just I don't >>>>>>> know, shepherds pie >>>>>> oven cook x degrees for 30 minutes for example, would >>>>>> have been invented for us blind folks by cobolt or a >>>>>> similar company >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ** To leave the list, click on the >>>>>>> immediately-following link:- ** >>>>>>> [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>>>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>>>>> ** unsubscribe >>>>>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, >>>>>>> click on the ** immediately-following link:- >>>>>>> ** >>>>>>> [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a >>>>>>> message, to >>>>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the >>>>>>> Subject:- faq >>>>>> >>>>>> ** To leave the list, click on the >>>>>> immediately-following link:- ** >>>>>> [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>>>> ** unsubscribe >>>>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, >>>>>> click on the ** immediately-following link:- >>>>>> ** >>>>>> [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a >>>>>> message, to >>>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- >>>>>> faq >>>>>> ** To leave the list, click on the >>>>>> immediately-following link:- ** >>>>>> [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>>>> ** unsubscribe >>>>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, >>>>>> click on the ** immediately-following link:- >>>>>> ** >>>>>> [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a >>>>>> message, to >>>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- >>>>>> faq >>>>> >>>>> ** To leave the list, click on the >>>>> immediately-following link:- ** >>>>> [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>>> ** unsubscribe >>>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, >>>>> click on the ** immediately-following link:- >>>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>>>> ** or send a message, to >>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- >>>>> faq >>>> >>>> ** To leave the list, click on the >>>> immediately-following link:- ** >>>> [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>> ** unsubscribe >>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click >>>> on the ** immediately-following link:- >>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>>> ** or send a message, to >>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- >>>> faq >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - 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