I will look to one in the near future, a Bluetooth keyboard that is, but I still want to be mobile, and a keyboard seems to make that a bit less mobile, if you know what I mean. As for overpriced cases, hmm, depends what you're looking for, tbh, the iiphone is so expencive, I want to bullet proof mine, and for that u pay, hoping that what you paid makes that bigger expense of replacing the iphone because you drop the thing, that little less likely. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of eleanor martha burke Sent: 27 June 2014 11:46 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: iphone and other stuff was RE: Re: More Nokia C5 Woes my local apple store does a variety of cases for the iPhone 5c admittedly these are in my opinion overpriced have you considered getting a Bluetooth keyboard there can be excellent in conjunction with your iPhone Eleanor Martha Burke > On 27 Jun 2014, at 11:42, "martin wilsher" <martinwilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I have recently gone for an apple iphone, as I didn't much like the > moto g, and what's more, I got a fantastic deal on the iphone5c at > upgrade time that completely rocks, so went that way. Finding the > iphone 5c good, but finding accessories for it, cases etc, a pest to > find. Found a stylus now so I can write and also type faster, I may > try flexey as others have said that one to be a good app for speeding > up typing when you're a fat fingered personage like me. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of john gallagher > Sent: 27 June 2014 11:27 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes > > one thing you must do is just sit down and really learn it all because > the future is android or apple for us. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Vincent Thacker <vince@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Friday, 27 June 2014 11.20 am > Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes > >> >> >> Martin, >> >> I agree with most of what you say here, but would be a lot more >> positive > about Android. The fact remains that many blind people are finding > phones like the Moto G usable, and the price is about #150. There are > some active blind Android mailing lists, and other forms of support > are growing. OK, something like the Moto G will feel very different > from the C5, but some people are finding it a practical answer. >> >> Vince. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ======================================== >> Message Received: Jun 27 2014, 09.59 AM >> From: "martin wilsher" >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Cc: >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes >> >> Imho at the moment The problem with drift of the mobile industry is >> that we have the bespoke phones, alto 2, and another that I can't >> remember the name of sold by Cobolt for those with usable sight. We >> used to have talks, now defunct, then we get to Android, not easy for >> older people, I consider android with its somewhat questionable >> accessability to be the Linux of the mobile world. Then there is >> apple, the gold standard at the moment. I have deliberately left out >> Microsoft here, as their commitment to accessibility is questionable >> imho, especially when they scrap cymbian, then put out a blog asking >> "what do we do for blind p""com" when they realised they'd also >> binned a screen reader with the old moble os. Microsoft are said to >> be getting narrator for windows phone eight, though whether that will >> be a patch on apple's voiceover, I can't say. Until then, the tie up >> with mobilespeak seems to be a rather walled garden solution, not a >> true screen reader at the moment. So basically for the budget user, >> we have no usable solutions at the minute, other than the bespoke, >> some call them blindie phones, I call them meeting a need in a very >> confusing and fast moving market. Imho, Microsoft have acted in a >> very short sighted and disgusting manner and did immeasurable damage >> to their credibility with the move away from cymbian, without >> implementing a full access solution for the new windows eight phone >> before retiring the old os.-Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of Jackie Brown >> Sent: 27 June 2014 08.49 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes >> >> Hi Ibrahim >> >> I agree, absolutely, but Jim said he has limited funds, and unless he >> goes to the second-hand market, I could only think of the Alto2 as a >> quick solution. >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Jackie Brown >> Twitter: @thebrownsplace >> Skype: Thejackmate >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu >> Sent: 26 June 2014 19.21 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes >> >> Hi Jackie. >> >> Surely the Alto 2 is a very basic phone which has very limited features. >> You couldn't compare the two devices if you tried, and Jim would be >> losing a >> >> lot of functionality by moving to such a cheap dumb phone. >> >> All the best, Ibrahim. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jackie Brown >> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 4.43 PM >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes >> >> Hi Jim >> >> With limited funds, and in keeping with the type of phone you already >> have, perhaps the nearest would be the Alto2 from RNIB? I suggest >> this because it is unlocked, and will enable you to simply swap over >> your Sim card. It also has a tactile keypad, and you wouldn't need to >> purchase a Talks upgrade because speech is built into the Alto2. >> >> I hope this helps give you some food for thought. >> >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Jackie Brown >> Twitter: @thebrownsplace >> Skype: Thejackmate >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of Jim Williams >> Sent: 26 June 2014 14.51 >> To: BCAB Discussion List >> Cc: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] More Nokia C5 Woes >> >> Hi Lists, >> >> Apologies for cross posting but I need as much advice as possible. >> >> I thought the battery had died on my C5 but tests prove this not to >> be the case. I have been informed that is probably a display >> malfunction or even a motherboard issue. The display will cost >> #25-#30 alone to rectify, with possibly a similar amount for the motherboard replacement. >> >> Rather than spend such an amount on repairs I was wondering if anyone >> can point me to a replacement of some kind. 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