[access-uk] Re: how sad
- From: "Clive Lever" <clive.lever@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 16:10:37 +0100
Hi all,
Would it be vi-gen-access? If so, is that a Yahhoo list? I don't subscribe
to it, but have noticed it mentioned here when access strays from access
technology. Just too much traffic to subscribe to them all though.
Best,
Clive
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Henry Miller
Sent: 28 June 2014 14:13
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: how sad
Hi
This has been, and is a very interesting topic. However, as someone has
already pointed out this is not strictly Access techie material.
What is the name of the list that will be most suitable for this type of
discussion and how do I subscribe?
best wishes
Henry
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Eleanor Martha Burke
Sent: 28 June 2014 10:24
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: how sad
A volunteer put out a request for a Talking Book Machine on another list and
I was happy to oblige. However as this was for someone over 80 years one
wonders why she was not provided with same by her local association for the
blind.
----- Original Message -----
From: "john gallagher" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 10:17 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: how sad
> hi clive how true it is like going up to windermere for a holiday and
> now to get a guide when going out is very difficult as they say what
> happens if you fall or walk in to something to me all this has gone
> over the top and again with our local self help group now we cannot
> get a mini bus though it is amazing what we do. maybe this is the
> wrong list to discuss all this as it is an access list but it does
> make you wonder where the future for a blind person is going. one
> thing we have is a techie evening and the next one i will be showing
> the tellorion phone it is amazing how many new visually impaired
> people do not realise about this techie stuff that is about. just
> wonder though if we should put this topic on another list.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Clive Lever <clive.lever@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Friday, 27 June 2014 10.35 pm
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: how sad
>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Not only the cost of CRB's, but the fact that the bureaucracy could
>> put off some potential helpers.
>>
>> Best,
>> Clive
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Derek Hornby
>> Sent: 27 June 2014 21.41
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: how sad
>>
>> Or there is a cost.
>> Who pays the CRB fees!
>> Who pays the insurance?
>>
>> Derek
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Clive Lever
>> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 8.20 PM
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: how sad
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> And they may be struggling further to find the volunteers, because in
>> a number of ways, volunteering can cost the volunteer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Clive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Vincent Thacker
>> Sent: 27 June 2014 20.05
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: how sad
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, using volunteers is not without cost. I was once forced to cancel a
>> volunteer programme because there were not the resources to recruit and
>> manage volunteers properly. They give their labour free, but otherwise
>> it's
>> like employing a paid worker.
>>
>> Vince.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ========================================
>> Message Received: Jun 27 2014, 07.55 PM
>> From: ";Shaun O'Connor"
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Cc:
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: how sad
>>
>> I could be mistaken but I believe one of David Cameron's wonderful
>> measures
>> was to render charitable entities liable to tax on donations hence $ the
>> cutback because charitable bodies are required to set aside money to pay
>> the
>> exchequer, therefore the amount of money available for some voluntary
>> services is either unavailable or heavily reduced.
>>
>> On 27/06/2014 18.26, George Bell wrote:
>>
>> With respect, John, surely the drivers here are volunteers, so how
>> is this a "cut back"? George. -----Original Message----- From:
>> access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> john
>> gallagher Sent: 27 June 2014 13.17 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] how sad hi futher to my last well how true it is
>> about
>> only having one life and things are much harder for us blind people now.
>> we
>> have just had a letter this morning saying that the service that was
>> provided to us via the rotary club has ended. this service used to give
>> blind people the chance to go to a concert in leeds where the drivers
>> would
>> take you and fetch you back. so, as i said on my last post things are
>> going
>> to get so much worse with the cut backs so if you can aford to go for
>> something and learn it then go
>> for it. ----- Original Message ----- From: john gallagher To:
>> access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Friday, 27 June 2014 1.12 pm Subject:
>> [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes
>>
>> 1still now we do have a much better choice than we
>> did years ago. hi there well as jackie says that's why all this is
>> so interesting as we are all different i am very lucky to be able to buy
>> stuff but my motoe is you only have one life and if you want the best and
>> you can get it go for it. it is bad enough not seing anything in a visual
>> world so just go for it. again i am very fortunate to be able to do so
>> but
>> for me the tellorion has terific apps and it is so very very easy to use.
>> i
>> do agree with you and martin though for someone on a low budget it is
>> hard
>> to get something which is really
>> very good and accessible. maybe in the future things like the
>> telorion could work on the new moto gee at "150 and again as you say
>> blind
>> people have to pay lots more for this stuff just like the satnav but at
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Friday, 27 June 2014 1.06 pm
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes
>>
>> Hi John. Telorian is "260 without a phone, its way
>> above my price range let alone Jim's LOL. I've heard of it of course,
>> but
>> I'm not sure where my money would be going except in to the pocket of
>> yet
>> another company providing another bolt-on
>> solution for Android devices. Android phones have their own
>> accessibility built right in, so why cant people learn to use that
>> rather
>> than paying for a proprietary solution? With Talks and Symbian we
>> didn't
>> have much choice, well we had talks or mobile speak, but this? Anyway,
>> I'll
>> get off my hobby horse now LOL. -----Original
>> Message----- From: john gallagher Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 9.07 AM
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes
>> hi
>> there what a shame he cannot afford the tellorion and learn how that
>> works
>> as it is so much much better and works on the android setup. maybe going
>> on
>> some kinnd of contract could solve it. ----- Original Message -----
>> From:
>> Jackie Brown To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Friday, 27 June 2014 8.49 am Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia
>> C5 Woes
>>
>> Hi Ibrahim I agree, absolutely, but Jim
>> said he has limited funds, and unless he goes to the second-hand
>> market, I could only think of the Alto2 as a quick solution. Kind
>> regards, Jackie Brown Twitter: @thebrownsplace Skype: Thejackmate
>> -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu Sent:
>> 26 June 2014 19.21 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk]
>> Re: More Nokia C5 Woes Hi Jackie. Surely the Alto 2 is a very basic
>> phone
>> which has very limited features. You couldn't compare the two devices if
>> you
>> tried, and Jim would be losing a lot of functionality by moving to such
>> a
>> cheap dumb phone. All the best, Ibrahim.
>> -----Original Message----- From: Jackie Brown Sent: Thursday, June 26,
>> 2014 4.43 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: More
>> Nokia
>> C5 Woes Hi Jim With limited funds, and in keeping with the type of
>> phone
>> you already have, perhaps the nearest would be the
>> Alto2 from RNIB? I suggest this because it is unlocked, and will enable
>> you to simply swap over your Sim card. It also has a tactile keypad,
>> and
>> you wouldn't need to purchase a Talks upgrade because speech is built
>> into
>> the Alto2. I hope this helps give you some food
>> for thought. Kind regards, Jackie Brown Twitter: @thebrownsplace
>> Skype: Thejackmate -----Original Message----- From:
>> access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> Jim
>> Williams Sent: 26 June 2014 14.51 To: BCAB Discussion List Cc:
>> access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] More Nokia C5 Woes Hi
>> Lists,
>> Apologies for cross posting but I need as much advice as possible. I
>> thought the battery had died on my C5 but tests prove this not to be the
>> case. I have been informed that is probably a display malfunction or
>> even
>> a motherboard issue. The display will cost "25-"30 alone to rectify,
>> with
>> possibly a similar amount for the motherboard replacement. Rather than
>> spend such an amount on repairs I was wondering if anyone can point me
>> to a
>> replacement of some kind.
>> Funds are limited at the moment so I will need to consider very
>> carefully
>> what are my options. Thanks in advance for any ideas. Jim Williams **
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