hi clive a bit of both and also the people who did the service are getting much older now and of course the young people just don't want to know. ----- Original Message ----- From: Clive Lever <clive.lever@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Friday, 27 June 2014 8.34 pm Subject: [access-uk] Re: how sad > > > Hi, > > Surely it would be more likely that either: > > 1. The service has been stopped because fewer and fewer people were > using it--not really a cutback, > 2. It had to be stoppe because there's less money coming in since > others are tightening their belts, and admin costs such as phone bills, rates > and so on are rising--arguably a cutback--or, > 3. A bit of both. > > Best, > Clive > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > George Bell > Sent: 27 June 2014 20.09 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: how sad > > Sorry, that's not the case. If I was to donate money to charity, and > completed the relevant form, the charity can re-claim the tax I paid on my > donation. > > George. > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Shaun O'Connor > Sent: 27 June 2014 18.43 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: how sad > > I could be mistaken but I believe one of David Cameron's wonderful measures > was to render charitable entities liable to tax on donations hence $ the > cutback because charitable bodies are required to set aside money to pay the > exchequer, therefore the amount of money available for some voluntary > services is either unavailable or heavily reduced. > On 27/06/2014 18.26, George Bell wrote: > With respect, John, surely the drivers here are volunteers, so how is this a > "cut back"? > > George. > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > john gallagher > Sent: 27 June 2014 13.17 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] how sad > > hi futher to my last well how true it is about only having one life and > things are much harder for us blind people now. > > we have just had a letter this morning saying that the service that was > provided to us via the rotary club has ended. > > this service used to give blind people the chance to go to a concert in leeds > where the drivers would take you and fetch you back. so, as i said on my last > post things are going to get so much worse with the cut backs so if you can > aford to go for something and learn it then go for it. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: john gallagher <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Friday, 27 June 2014 1.12 pm > Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes > > > > 1still now we do have a much better choice than we did years ago. > > hi there well as jackie says that's why all this is so interesting as we are > all different i am very lucky to be able to buy stuff but my motoe is you > only have one life and if you want the best and you can get it go for it. it > is bad enough not seing anything in a visual world so just go for it. again i > am very fortunate to be able to do so but for me the tellorion has terific > apps and it is so very very easy to use. i do agree with you and martin > though for someone on a low budget it is hard to get something which is > really very good and accessible. > > maybe in the future things like the telorion could work on the new > moto gee at "150 and again as you say blind people have to pay lots > more for this stuff just like the satnav but at > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu <ibrahim,g;ucukoglu@xxxxxxxx> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Friday, 27 June 2014 1.06 pm > Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes > > > > Hi John. > > Telorian is "260 without a phone, its way above my price range let > alone Jim's LOL. I've heard of it of course, but I'm not sure where > my money would be going except in to the pocket of yet another > company providing another bolt-on solution for Android devices. > Android phones have their own accessibility built right in, so why > cant people learn to use that rather than paying for a proprietary > solution? With Talks and Symbian we didn't have much choice, well we had > talks or mobile speak, but this? > > Anyway, I'll get off my hobby horse now LOL. > > -----Original Message----- > From: john gallagher > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 9.07 AM > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes > > hi there what a shame he cannot afford the tellorion and learn how > that works as it is so much much better and works on the android > setup. maybe going on some kinnd of contract could solve it. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jackie Brown <thebrownsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Friday, 27 June 2014 8.49 am > Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes > > > > Hi Ibrahim > > I agree, absolutely, but Jim said he has limited funds, and unless > he goes to the second-hand market, I could only think of the Alto2 > as a quick solution. > > > Kind regards, > > Jackie Brown > Twitter: @thebrownsplace > Skype: Thejackmate > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu > Sent: 26 June 2014 19.21 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes > > Hi Jackie. > > Surely the Alto 2 is a very basic phone which has very limited features. > You couldn't compare the two devices if you tried, and Jim would > be losing a > > lot of functionality by moving to such a cheap dumb phone. > > All the best, Ibrahim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jackie Brown > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 4.43 PM > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Nokia C5 Woes > > Hi Jim > > With limited funds, and in keeping with the type of phone you > already have, perhaps the nearest would be the Alto2 from RNIB? I > suggest this because it is unlocked, and will enable you to simply > swap over your Sim card. It also has a tactile keypad, and you > wouldn't need to purchase a Talks upgrade because speech is built > into the Alto2. > > I hope this helps give you some food for thought. > > > > Kind regards, > > Jackie Brown > Twitter: @thebrownsplace > Skype: Thejackmate > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Jim Williams > Sent: 26 June 2014 14.51 > To: BCAB Discussion List > Cc: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] More Nokia C5 Woes > > Hi Lists, > > Apologies for cross posting but I need as much advice as possible. > > I thought the battery had died on my C5 but tests prove this not > to be the case. I have been informed that is probably a display > malfunction or even a motherboard issue. The display will cost > "25-by 30 alone to rectify, with possibly a similar amount for the > motherboard replacement. > > Rather than spend such an amount on repairs I was wondering if > anyone can point me to a replacement of some kind. 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