Ok, to bring it back to freeview, here is the tweet I sent out with link to digital UK. public service tweet.in the UK digital retuning is happening on3/09/2014go2 http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/ put in your details 2 see #if affected. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shaun O'Connor Sent: 30 August 2014 14:50 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: freeview very good point, I don't hear saga being promoted on radio so plainly they are aiming their marketing at people who are doing quite well health wise thank you very much!!.(note the implied sarcasm here). but yes it is a subliminal form of discrimination. Marketing departments, especially those who work for very financially solvent companies employ hordes of behavioural psychologists and the like to find ways to get people to buy their products unwittingly. increasingly "targeted" marketing is the big game today go for the ones who can shell out the most and **** everyone else. On 30/08/2014 12:33, George Bell wrote: David, If even I meet you daughter, you'd better make sure she has a set of ear plugs inserted. I've seen that advert, and the kindest thing I can say about it is not for this list. I've even have our cars insured though Saga having had my free bus pass for the last 7 years. Just thinking out loud - isn't the term "visual media advertising" somewhat discriminatory? As in, "We don't care if you are elderly and your sight is deteriorating?" George. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David W Wood Sent: 30 August 2014 12:21 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [access-uk] Re: freeview George I had a conversation about this with my daughter a few months ago. She works for a visual media advertising agency in Soho and was the production director on an advert for Saga. Picture of the hotel where, supposedly, it was started, and pictures of Folkestone. Nice music, footage of cruise liners (inside and out), some script, but the only speech was "and it all started from this little hotel in Folkestone". Meaningless! Apparently the reason is that they aim to imprint images on the mind to stimulate resonance with other visual forms, such as scaffolding posters, billboards etc. ATB David W Wood -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Bell Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 12:10 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [access-uk] Re: freeview It's one of those adverts which drives me nuts. It is displayed on the TV screen SILENTLY. I guess after 30 years in this business I'm more aware of this kind of thing than many others, but it still never fails me to amaze me how many adverts appear on TV which do not verbally mention the name of the product. One of the most recent is a beautifully arranged piece of music, which actually make me want to close my eyes enjoy it - all I can remember is that it's for coffee, and that's only because three bags of it are shown where the "Coffee" is prominently displayed on the bag. George. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David W Wood Sent: 30 August 2014 08:14 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [access-uk] Re: freeview David How did you find this out? ATB David W Wood -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Weston Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 7:27 AM To: access-uk access-uk Subject: [access-uk] freeview Hi, just if you have not noticed but in the MTh September some of the channels on free view will be changing, so one needs to reset the TB. 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