[access-uk] Re: facebook.com - an amazing, yet partially inaccessible, tool for blind people

  • From: "Ankers, Dave \(UK\)" <Dave.Ankers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:27:28 +0100

Dave,

I fully agree, all that is needed is email verification.
 
Dave

Damon,

I think it would make a great In Touch program to start mentioning how
many staff are using this and blind people can't! Actually, if they use
it ever for work purposes, that would be discrimination as well! It's
about time we started doing something about the graphics. They are
completely unnecessary!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Damon" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:04 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: facebook.com - an amazing, yet partially
inaccessible, tool for blind people


> adrian i understood that linked-in has also just recently added 
> captcha graphics?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adrian Higginbotham" <adrian.higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:58 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: facebook.com - an amazing, yet partially 
> inaccessible, tool for blind people
>
>
>> Linked-in is similar and is completely accessible - it's more 
>> proffessionally focused than the current trend of social networking 
>> sites like face-book but it does work.
>>
>> Adrian Higginbotham
>>
>>
>> Accessibility content manager
>>
>> British Educational Communications and Technology Agency - BECTA
>> Tel: Direct dial 024 7679 7333 - Becta switchboard 02476-416994.
>>
>> Email: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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>> BECTA, Millburn Hill Road, Science Park, Coventry, CV4 7JJ
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>> Behalf Of Damon
>> Sent: 10 June 2007 18:34
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: facebook.com - an amazing, yet partially 
>> inaccessible, tool for blind people
>>
>> Facebook isn't a chat website. And I don't have enough hours in the 
>> day to sit and relay chat with strangers, sadly.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 4:50 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: facebook.com - an amazing, yet partially 
>> inaccessible, tool for blind people
>>
>>
>>> Oh I see what you mean now. There is another possibility; how about
>> irc?
>>> You could use an Irc client like Mirc and connect to a general 
>>> purpose Irc channel where most but not all sighted people are on it.

>>> Hope that helps.
>>> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:15:43 +0100, "Karen Burgess"
>>> <karen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
>>>> hi chris
>>>>
>>>> only one problem with this, majority of zone members are blind
>> people,
>>>> thus
>>>> not giving you access to the mainstream sites that others use.
>>>>
>>>> kaz
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 4:08 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: facebook.com - an amazing, yet partially 
>>>> inaccessible, tool for blind people
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >I personally think we're better with an alternative yet very
>> accessible
>>>> > service, Zone BBS. There are no graphical verification thingies,
>> you
>>>> > can
>>>> > do everything that it has to offer without sighted assistance, 
>>>> > and, well, it's just another choice for those like you and me who

>>>> > can't socialize very well. You can sign up at
http://www.zonebbs.com.
>> Hope
>>>> > that helps.
>>>> > On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:49:39 +0100, "Damon"
>> <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > said:
>>>> >> HI all.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Are there any Facebook members among you?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It's a really amazing social networking site. I got myself on it
>> last
>>>> >> week - but had to ask someone to help me with the verification
>> graphic
>>>> >> in
>>>> >> order that I can setup an account.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Now that I'm in, it's quite good. It only currently gives 
>>>> >> limited accessibility for visually impaired people though.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Various important things you can do, such as Add Friends, send
>> email,
>>>> >> have conversations on the groups you choose to be part of, are 
>>>> >> all inacccessible now because they have recently added 
>>>> >> verification graphics for these things too.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Interestingly, if you are in the US or Canada you can get rid of
>> the
>>>> >> verification graphics by giving it your mobile phone number to
>> verify
>>>> >> you
>>>> >> are a real human being and not just a spammer. But it doesn't 
>>>> >> work
>>
>>>> >> with
>>>> >> UK phones yet. I am thinking of calling up a mate in the US and
>> asking
>>>> >> if
>>>> >> she'll allow me to use her mobile number - though not entirely
>> sure
>>>> >> this
>>>> >> waves all verification graphics away. If anyone has any insight
>> into
>>>> >> this
>>>> >> I'd appreciate hearing from you.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> In the meantime, you can add to your list of friends by sitting
>> back
>>>> >> and
>>>> >> waiting for them to add you. And you can post on peoples' walls.
>> The
>>>> >> key
>>>> >> to social networking is to build those networks as they are
>> important
>>>> >> from friendships, business and finding like-minded people. Oh 
>>>> >> and
>> you
>>>> >> can
>>>> >> also, of course, look for partners if that's your thing. But 
>>>> >> it's
>> a
>>>> >> way
>>>> >> of opening up networks, letting your friends see your mates
>> friends
>>>> >> and
>>>> >> business acquaintances.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You can also create and join networks. So, using a valid email
>> address
>>>> >> at
>>>> >> the company I work for, I'm now a member of their Network. I 
>>>> >> also belong to the London network. All these things are 
>>>> >> accessible.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I think this tool could be amazingly useful to blind people, 
>>>> >> especially as we find it so hard to network when at big 
>>>> >> conferences and at parties.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I believe visually impaired people are lobbying Facebook to have
>> an
>>>> >> audio
>>>> >> alternative to the captcha graphic put in place. I'm going to 
>>>> >> get
>> more
>>>> >> details about this.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I urge you to check it out.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> www.facebook.com
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The other thing to mention is that, interestingly, everyone in 
>>>> >> my office has become a member of Facebook and are networking 
>>>> >> like mad. So,
>> the
>>>> >> fact
>>>> >> that I can't leaves me at a disadvantage. There is currently 
>>>> >> only
>> semi
>>>> >> access for me but I have chosen to jump on board because it's
>> better
>>>> >> to
>>>> >> be partially in than out in my circumstances.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Get an account. Get looking round. It's a fascinating site. The
>> longer
>>>> >> you're on it, the more friends you collect, the more you get it.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ...Damon
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> > Christopher Hallsworth
>>>> > E-mail: chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype name 
>>>> > chrishallsworth7266
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