Think Alex you have to get this security concern into some sort of context. A lot of the frauds and scamms just now are being commited off-line at your local garage and the service sector generally, not on line, though obviously things can go wrong. Again, if you give your card details over the phone then someone could, sometimes does, go on a spending spree. There isn't a site that wouldn't use a secure HTTPS page for payment transactions. I've been buying on-line now for some four or five years and nothing seems to have gone awry as yet. You do always have to be vigilent though. I'm trying now to tighten up a lot on passwords and these days I wouldn't stand a chance of recalling any of my new passwords as they're madeup of odd characters and much longer. So I have to paste them in now and tend to keep them on cards which I have to get into the habbit of taking out of the computer when I don't need them. On-line purchase can be perilously easy! Stores like Amazon make it so easy to re-order with your card details being stored. Well, just some thoughts, and any thoughts on security issues are always good to have. Cheers, From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- Alexander Shannon Hi Steve, If I can download most programs when purchasing online, then I may start purchasing online, as long as the site I am purchasing from has a secure payment method. One of the other reasons I hesitate to shop online is due to concerns about security of card details. . Alexander Shannon ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq