Hi Ray > It does have the advantage of making your card >useless for thieves who grab it who may have seen your C and P >number and go straight off to withdraw cash. yes but that's just same as they can grab when you use ATM! > If I've one criticism of C and P machines it is that it is too easy for > others to see from a distance the number you enter. Many are much too >open visually. I think it's all a case of how one uses the key pad. When i use key pad I use my left hand fingers to press the buttons, and I use my right hand as a sort of shield. Oh and just for the record, I never ever use an ATM I prefer to go in to bank for cash. Regards, Derek e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq