[access-uk] Re: chip and PIN

  • From: "Justin R" <mypc128@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:32:08 +0100

I've just recently "had" to use chip & pin myself when purchasing something in M&S. I've always been opposed to chip and pin as, I don't see how accessible this is supposed to be. I understand the analoguey with being able to use a keypad if an individual can use a telephone. However, I understand, not all chip and pin key pads are layed out in exactly the same number order. The thing that worries me most about this chip and pin is, if you press the wrong key and make a mistake, what happens then? How it the mistake to be currected? None of hte great financial institutions that have forced chip and pin onto the general public, singing its endless praises, have explained how to sort things out when you make a mistake. There are plenty of sighted people who just happen to press the wrong button sometimes. They do have the edge though when it comes to seeing their straight away and knowing what button, if any, that currects the mistake that's been made.

That was my big issue with this chip and pin business. it's very convinient but, very accessible. I suppose any member of staff aren't allowed to give us assistance due the privacy i.e. tapping in you're pin number. Hmmm..... I'm resigned to chip and pin, will use it if I have to but, don't feel secure with it given how visual it really is.

Justin
----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:43 PM
Subject: [access-uk] chip and PIN



Hi Steve
I believe that if people see there is an accessible site, they sometimes
assume that the main site isn't accessible, or is less accessible, which
is
a logical assumption, because they then wonder why an accessible site was
needed at all, if the main site is less accessible.

Isn't that same sort of thinking with chip and PIN!

RNIB campaigns for chip and signature, with reason that not all the blind
visually impaired are able to use chip and PIN.
However, the reasoning is surly flawed because those that claim unable to
use a key pad, how many of those are able to use a telephone?
The point  being if one is able to use telephone then one must be able to
use
a key pad.

I suggest the learning of layout for chip and PIN key pad, is easy if one
already knows the layout for a telephone buttons!


Of course there will  be people blind visually impaired that simply don't
want to use chip and PIN, but that's just as true for sighted  people.

What do others think, is chip  and PIN really and truly difficult to use
for those  with little or no sight?
Regards,
Derek

e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


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