[access-uk] Re: chip and PIN
- From: "Tony Cretney" <rac@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:06:48 +0100
Yes Ian!
I would agree with you. I also have quite a bit of sight and have found
little or no difficulty in using these devices. This is particularly true
when visiting the Supermarket, as I nearly always go to the same one' I
consequently have very little difficulty in using the keypad, as it is
clearly always the same with the same firm. Even if I visit a shop or a
store that I am not altogether camellia with I do not have any serious
difficulties in using the pad. However, I do understand that different
keypads in different stores may well be a serious problem for those of us
who do not have very much sight or may well have no sight at all.
I really do not understand why the keypads are not standardized, perhaps
someone else on the list might have some ideas on this one.
As I have not really been following this thread it is quite possible that
this question has already been under discussion.
Tony
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Macrae" <ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:49 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: chip and PIN
I have some sight but have always found signing for credit/debit card
transactions the most terrible hassle. For that reason, if my sighted
wife and I did a supermarket shop together, I'd always make sure I was
busy with packing the bags so that Sarah would pay. Now, however, with
C&P, I'm entirely happy to pay and find the process very
straightforward.
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Derek Hornby
Sent: 04 April 2005 12:44
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] chip and PIN
Hi Steve
I believe that if people see there is an accessible site, they
sometimes assume that the main site isn't accessible, or is less
accessible, which
is
a logical assumption, because they then wonder why an accessible site
was needed at all, if the main site is less accessible.
Isn't that same sort of thinking with chip and PIN!
RNIB campaigns for chip and signature, with reason that not all the
blind visually impaired are able to use chip and PIN. However, the
reasoning is surly flawed because those that claim unable to use a key
pad, how many of those are able to use a telephone? The point being if
one is able to use telephone then one must be able to use a key pad.
I suggest the learning of layout for chip and PIN key pad, is easy if
one already knows the layout for a telephone buttons!
Of course there will be people blind visually impaired that simply
don't want to use chip and PIN, but that's just as true for sighted
people.
What do others think, is chip and PIN really and truly difficult to use
for those with little or no sight? Regards, Derek
e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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