Hi Ray, Sounds like you are a little behind with laptops. The Fujitsu-Siemens range have almost full-sized keys on them, and mine only weighs 1.3KG. What do they say, a little knowledge is dangerous? <Smile>. As for Page down, you hold down the FN key and press down arrow. How hard is that? All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday 8 July 2008 22:56 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: brailleplus or icon? Well, lucky old You! For me tha laptop has to be the most over rated and over valued bit of gadgetry around. Portable should mean just that, and propper length of time without a mains outlet - and not all trains have them anyway. Your laptop must indeed be an exception as three hours is a much as most people seem to get out of these must have toys. Keyboards are usually total crap too. We've heard on this list that at least one of these beasts doesn't have dedicated page up page down keys. If that's not enough the keys are almost always dead flat with no rake, such is the ludicrous obsession with how small you can make the bluddy things. Human interface? Inhuman more like! I might start to look at these things again seriously when we have totally solid state machines with no hard drive, but until then I'll be quite happy to snear at this "must have". Rant over and out. Ray. > Hi Ray, > > My laptop has six hours on the battery. You can buy a spare battery, or > on > many trains they have plug sockets anyway. What's this obsession with > hours > of battery life? > > All the best > > Steve ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq