[access-uk] Re: braille statements RNIB sides with the Ombudsman

  • From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 15:17:02 -0000

Hi Derek,

While it is not difficult for me to do, it depends on the transcriber, the
software they use, etc. Also, it would mean another flag that the bank
would have to hold on your records.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Derek Hornby
Sent: 27 November 2015 14:49
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: braille statements RNIB sides with the Ombudsman

But Steve, I thought you agreed that what I was asking for isn't
difficult to do.

Remember the bank has said if they could do it they would happily
do it.

So they still have-not said why cannot do it.

and the quote you have seen in another message, was from RNIB



Derek
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 2:10 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: braille statements RNIB sides with the
Ombudsman

Hi,

I happen to agree with that finding.

All the best

Steve

Computer Room Services
77 Exeter Close
Stevenage
Hertfordshire
SG1 4PW
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of
Derek Hornby
Sent: 27 November 2015 10:20
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] braille statements RNIB sides with the Ombudsman

Hi All
Regarding Braille bank statements.

here is more comment from the ombudsman.
Notice that RNIB supports the bank?
Also the bank has still failed to give a reason, as to why
they cannot do Braille on both saides of paper.
Few weeks ago they were saying if they could, they would happily do
it!

Now quote from bank, to the ombudsman.


"As previously discussed to you on the telephone we do not offer any
customer bank statements single sided. All statements that we produce
included Braille are sent double sided and this is the way that
statement production system works.

"We have discussed this matter with the Royal Institute of Blind
People
and they have provided the below to our Diversity Manager
Dear Neil, further to your telcon with Steve Tyler this morning,
please
find below quote from Steve in this respect.


Reference: Complaint by Derek Hornby re Duplex Braille Statements

It is RNIB's view that the business decision taken by HSBC regarding
the production of bank statements in Duplex form (Braille on both
sides
of the paper) is a perfectly accessible means of delivering
this
information to regular Braille reading clients. Although Mr Hornby
may
have preferences around his ideal form of statements, as with all
business decisions, individual preferences and especially highly
specific ones cannot be delivered upon when handling mass produced
or template products. We believe that although he may have

a preference, double sided Braille is a standard and uniform
means
by which Braille is produced and has no bearing on the actual
accessibility of the product other than a stated preference.

Customers continually express preferences and were there to be an
overwhelming response, then clearly we would need to review processes
and would recommend that to HSBC.
As it stands, given the ubiquitous nature of Braille produced in this
standard fashion, as well as the environmental impact of reduced
usage
of paper and consequent bulk of Braille, we believe this to be a
perfectly sound business decision by the bank.

regards
Helena Suprun
PA to Head of Solutions, Strategy and Planning (Steve Tyler)
Royal National Institute of Blind People (RNIB)

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