Hi Clive,
An interesting question. However, that's where good transcribers excel.
What would be equally interesting is if such an error slipped though into
braille, and the result was a "Fail".
George.
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 24 July 2015 11:15
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: braille changes petition
Hi George,
I agree. Let's get some formal guidance out there, as bad practice is probably
bringing the new code into disrepute.
I have an issue with exam papers whichask you to explain the meaning of words
in bold, or whatever, as there is already guidance out there to prompt people
to avoid conveying information by visual attribute alone. The original would
present difficulties for anyone using speech to hear the exam paper, wouldn't
it? By the same token, how would UEB represent the same question if, as it
frequently is, the wording had been:
"Explain the meaning of the words in the following text which are shown in
blue."
Best,
Clive
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
George Bell
Sent: 24 July 2015 10:55
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: braille changes petition
Hi there,
There is absolutely no requirement to include emphasis of any kind in UEB,
unless it is relevant.
This is something which transcribers and braille producers need to address
properly, and probably needs some formal guidance from UKAAF.
I can state quite categorically that Duxbury has options to ignore italics,
bold and underline as well as language flags.
That said, we do need to take care with certain types of document, such as
examination papers, where they may say something like, "Explain the meaning of
the words in the following text which are shown in bold."
In books, often something like a ship's name will be italicised throughout, and
yet it is not uncommon to italicise a word which is stressed when spoken.
George
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of CJ
&AA MAY
Sent: 24 July 2015 10:17
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: braille changes petition
I don't like the changes and feel quite annoyed about the high-handed way in
which they have been introduced but I'm not going to take part in this petition
because I feel it is too late. I do in actual fact see the reason behind many
of the changes and although I might not like them, I do accept that in time I
will get used to them but I think a more relevant petition might be to braille
publishers for them to use common sense in that I don't want my publications
full of italics, boldfacing and other symbols which just slow down my reading
speed.
I also would prefer my material non-capitalised but I feel this petition is
just spitting in the wind - the decision has been made and I fear we will just
have to learn to live with it.
Alison
my way
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Tony Sweeney
Sent: 24 July 2015 10:08
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: braille changes petition
It's a bit like students and the like looking for feedback on IT projects they
are trying to develop, or for thesis particularly for the blind in mind and you
never never hear any outcome afterwards.
We always like to assist but boy there is a limit to one's patience!
On 24/07/2015 10:00, Carol.Pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Redacted sender
carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx for DMARC) wrote:
Derek,
Thanks for this, but we now refuse any petitions because then you get
bombarded with so many messages afterwards. It really got so
sickening and took me some while on occasions to fill them in.
It's a shame really, but there you are, we all have to live within our
means.
Carol P
----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Hornby"
<derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 8:26 PM
Subject: [access-uk] braille changes petition
I thought Braille readers may be interested to take look here:
http://chn.ge/1GD0QEv
It's a petition.
"Rnib: Offer your publications in SEB as well as UEB either
indefinitely or for a grace period.
Offer free UEB conversion courses to long-term Braillists Provide
better learning resources to support conversion from SEB to UEB"
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