We need Sky or to buy a special freeview box to get AD whereas a sighted person can watch BBC channels with a terestrial aerial. [In 2005, the broadcasting watchdog Ofcom stipulated that 76 channels must carry AD. Current regulations state that all BBC channels must audio describe at least 8% of their programmes per week, the rest of the channels mentioned have slightly lower targets, but all are raised by Ofcom every 2 years.]. So, should we pay 8% of the licence fee, raising by 2% each year? There's no way that audio description can come close to describing the special effects that are produced on TV these days. For instance, I am told that Doctor Who has favulous computer generated effects. So, where's the equality there? Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 6:07 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: audio descriptions I disagree. Nothing is a substitute for visual information and that is from someone who has never seen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 5:19 PM Subject: [access-uk] audio descriptions > Peter wrote > "We are not equal, we can't see the pictures." > > But audio descriptions gives access to visual information. > > A sighted deaf viewer is not able to hear, so is offered subtitles, > but still pays same fee as the hearing/sighted viewers. > Sighted deaf have a good fair argument to have 100% subtitles, > they can say "We pay, so we should have it" > Blind people seem to be saying: > "we want audio descriptions, but we are not prepared to pay for it" > > Fair enough, so why should the rest of the TV viewers subsidise the > blind? > > Regards, Derek > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > Get your FREE SECURE email account from http://www.topmail.co.uk ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq